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Brexit..the meltdown has begun


PANZER MURPHY

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4 hours ago, The Beast said:

There won't be another referendum. The ruling elite will not want to risk getting the wrong answer again. Besides, what would be on the ballot, remain and fucking remain?

This awful deal is all or nothing for both sides. If passed by parliament it leads UK plc into a cul-de-sac, tied to the EU for another generation. If not, it is out with no deal.

This could be one of the top stitch ups in many years or the biggest result in a long time.

Personally, I don't hold out much hope of our pusillanimous politicians doing anything other than looking after their own arses and voting it through

Interesting times.

As the @Rev would enunciate...… I want them all dead.

You get what you deserve ...fuk yiz

Lol

Panzbaby 

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4 hours ago, Panzerknacker said:

You get what you deserve ...fuk yiz

Lol

Panzbaby 

You're not fucking wrong there Panzer. Back in the day when we wanted the Norfolk Broads constructed us bog dwellers employed the services of cheap Irish navies now, where a journey by road from Norwich to Wroxham is only 7 miles, by river on the broads it is nearly 50 miles. I said at the time, "yuz git wot yiz pay for". Stupid fucking oirish cunts.

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7 hours ago, Panzerknacker said:

Took yiz fukkin long enough to see that..could have told ya that two years ago

Panzbaby 

In view of your propensity to spew unmitigated bollox, if you could have, you would have, but you didn't. I believe you don't actually have an informed opinion on the matter - you certainly don't appear to have a handle on EU constitutional & economic issues, so I'm guessing you just recycle newspaper opeds from whatever red-top rubbish you read in your part of the world or maybe you're a sucker for t'interweb fake news.

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9 hours ago, Panzerknacker said:

Took yiz fukkin long enough to see that..could have told ya that two years ago

Panzbaby 

You're the citizen of a non country that will soon be colonized by Bongobongoland. In light of your reduced status within the human race, your participation is not appropriate. Now fuck off and get those pigs mucked out Mick or I will give another sound thrashing.

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46 minutes ago, Panzerknacker said:

Unmitigated bollix is the stock n trade of the corner roops baby..ya have brexit now ..maybe..does it please ya 

Panzbaby 

I haven't read the proposals in its entirety, but at first glance it looks like a massive fudge concocted by UK & EU bureaucrats which pleases no-one. There are unconfirmed reports that senior civil servants were shouting down elected politicians at yesterday's Downing Street summit. That being the case, the civil servants, who are there to advise on technicalities and administer political decisions, should be fired on the spot. There are three main problems,

1/ The political leaders on both sides of the house are scared of the electorate

2/ Too many actors hell bent on subverting the will of the British electorate

3/ The bloody Irish, on both sides of the border.

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3 hours ago, Couldn't give a shit said:

You're the citizen of a non country that will soon be colonized by Bongobongoland. In light of your reduced status within the human race, your participation is not appropriate. Now fuck off and get those pigs mucked out Mick or I will give another sound thrashing.

Yer a citizen of a country about to be relegated to bongobongoland status..moogs new company office in Dublin is very nice ..

Panzbaby 

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3 hours ago, Panzerknacker said:

The Irish and the EU didnt create this mess..y'all did..they just doin the same as you..protect itself n its borders ..and now the blame game starts...oo..thisll be a laff

Panzbaby 

The seeds of discord were sown on the 5th June 1975 when the country voted to join the Common Market largely based of the unequivocal assurance that the trading club would not morph into the political and economic union that now exists. Long before Johnson, Farrage et al, awkward squad politicos warned the EU not to intrude, interfere and regulate into every aspect of life. Eurocrats, perhaps emboldened by the number of countries seeking membership to free money, ignored the warnings.

There are interesting times ahead: Merkel is now in the same position as May was at the outset of her premiership, Macron is similarly weakened and dissent is slowly growing throughout Europe, with a number of citizens fed up of being told what to do by an unelected commission which they finance. Italy has now woken up to the realisation that it cannot set its own budget, unless it ditches the Euro.

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4 minutes ago, Panzerknacker said:

Water under the bridge roops baby..what ya make of the rabb ..running away from a deal he made and letting on that his paw prints wernt on it  atall atall no siree

Panzbaby 

Despite Raab's resignation letter we still don't know the full dynamic of yesterday's cabinet meeting. I think there is more to this than is being let on. 99.9% of the Brexit negotiations are undertaken by a team of civil servants. The politcos simply give broad direction and sign them off "on advice". The Bexit Secretary and Prime Minister only become involved on contentious political issues such as the N Irish question. There has been a suspicion that politically neutral civil servants have been undermining the political will as understood by the electorate, however there is a disquieting theory that the negotiating civil servants have been receiving instructions from the PM via the Cabinet Secretary. The UK has now seen two Brexit Secretaries resign, both after key meetings, firstly at Chequers then Downing Street. You may now draw your own conclusions...

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15 minutes ago, Panzerknacker said:

Water under the bridge roops baby..what ya make of the rabb ..running away from a deal he made and letting on that his paw prints wernt on it  atall atall no siree

Panzbaby 

Think it was more like him being thrown under a bus by his boss.

It doesn't matter.

This is all going nowhere and at present I can't see anything other than WTO rules. Or another referendum, the 'Leave' vote gerrymadered to ensure we return to the EU. but that's not a return to any status quo and just kicking issues down the road.....and if anyone thinks the UK is getting back on anything other than the most punitive terms, then I've got some glass hammers, skyhooks and tartan paint to sell them

The present plans are dead in the water. There's no more wriggle room on any renegotiations. Neither side will budge form their red lines.

What's the alternative?

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1 hour ago, Panzerknacker said:

Yer a citizen of a country about to be relegated to bongobongoland status..moogs new company office in Dublin is very nice ..

Panzbaby 

It will never happen shithead. May is about to be torn to pieces and the deal will never get through parliament as the DUP won't support it nor will the eurosceptics. The worse case scenario is we will turn into the world's biggest tax haven right on Europe's doorstep. One or two sections of the economy will go tits up but imagine all that money that will be coming home from our overseas dependecies like the Virgin Islands and the Cayman Islands. Conservative estimates are that 45% of the world's wealth flows through our financial system Mick. It's called the hidden empire.

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1 hour ago, Couldn't give a shit said:

It will never happen shithead. May is about to be torn to pieces and the deal will never get through parliament as the DUP won't support it nor will the eurosceptics. The worse case scenario is we will turn into the world's biggest tax haven right on Europe's doorstep. One or two sections of the economy will go tits up but imagine all that money that will be coming home from our overseas dependecies like the Virgin Islands and the Cayman Islands. Conservative estimates are that 45% of the world's wealth flows through our financial system Mick. It's called the hidden empire.

Unicorn breeding facillity aswell?

Panzbaby 

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1 hour ago, Mrs Roops said:

Despite Raab's resignation letter we still don't know the full dynamic of yesterday's cabinet meeting. I think there is more to this than is being let on. 99.9% of the Brexit negotiations are undertaken by a team of civil servants. The politcos simply give broad direction and sign them off "on advice". The Bexit Secretary and Prime Minister only become involved on contentious political issues such as the N Irish question. There has been a suspicion that politically neutral civil servants have been undermining the political will as understood by the electorate, however there is a disquieting theory that the negotiating civil servants have been receiving instructions from the PM via the Cabinet Secretary. The UK has now seen two Brexit Secretaries resign, both after key meetings, firstly at Chequers then Downing Street. You may now draw your own conclusions...

Rats fleeing the sinking ship would be my conclusion ..realistically this was only ever goin to end up here regardless of who was in the driving seat.

Panzbaby 

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6 minutes ago, Panzerknacker said:

Rats fleeing the sinking ship would be my conclusion ..realistically this was only ever goin to end up here regardless of who was in the driving seat.

Panzbaby 

Not so. If Maggie was still around she would have told the EU to fuck off under the threat of bankrupting Ireland's economy if they had tried this shit with her. 

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3 minutes ago, Couldn't give a shit said:

Not so. If Maggie was still around she would have told the EU to fuck off under the threat of bankrupting Ireland's economy if they had tried this shit with her. 

If maggie was here she'd have torn the balls off of bojo moog rabb n the gove long ago and not let the idiots like yerself have a say on this euro thing ..far too complicated for the plebs 

Panzbaby 

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10 minutes ago, Panzerknacker said:

If maggie was here she'd have torn the balls off of bojo moog rabb n the gove long ago and not let the idiots like yerself have a say on this euro thing ..far too complicated for the plebs 

Panzbaby 

It’s just as well you don’t give a fuck about Brexit, Panzy, otherwise you might get really rather worked up over all the recent developments.

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