Brexit Secretary

[Penny Farthing]

13 minutes ago, Iam Ape said:

I hope he’s had an extended lull in his use of oxygen.

Punk is a very primitive life form .. I doubt whether he needs oxygen.

[Guest 'eavensabove]

1 hour ago, cuntspotter said:

Why would you say this? What is your reasoning?

What has She achieved? Homelessness and a country in chaos. I'll give her that much.  I cannot think of any other legacy that she'll leave behind her. 

Nobody, but the Tory party itself voted her in. She's an imposter. 

In fairness, she's been so bogged-down with Brexit, that she's done fuck all else. Blair, was the same. He had mad cow disease, Diana's death and Iraq etc. etc. and so he fuck all else too. They go in with good intention, but spend their time dealing with any other shit that they wake-up to on a daily basis. This Brexit bollocks would have and could have been dealt with more efficiently if a larger force was put in place which didn't just consist of Tories. At the end of the day, there's always going to be 50% of unhappy Brits and 50% of unhappy Brits. That's 100% unhappy Welsh ones in my reckoning.  It's all bollocks, Spot. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by 'eavensabove

[Ape™️]

4 minutes ago, Wybunbury Bertie said:

Punk is a very primitive life form .. I doubt whether he needs oxygen.

Perhaps he’s learned to photosynthesise spunk.

[Penny Farthing]

33 minutes ago, Iam Ape said:

Perhaps he’s learned to photosynthesise spunk.

He breaths the methane from the shit that he posts.

[Guest Wizardsleeve]

2 hours ago, cuntspotter said:

Why would you say this? What is your reasoning?

Any given days news, Spotto.  

[Guest judgetwi]

The Brexit Secretary’s job is to carry Olly Robbins’ man bag on his frequent trips to Brussels.

Any cunt could do it.

[Mrs Roops]

16 hours ago, 'eavensabove said:

...Nobody, but the Tory party itself voted her in. She's an imposter...

Hardly an imposter, she secured the country's mandate in the 2017 general election.

[Earl of Punkape]

21 hours ago, camberwell gypsy said:

Chaka Khan? Chaka Khan? Chaka Khan?

You knew some cunt was gonna say it, c'mon. 

I feel for you....

[The Beast]

This whole shit show is entirely down to Mrs May, she has ultimate accountability.

Why are people scratching their heads wondering why the country has been plunged into a political crisis?

Seems obvious to me. She had no intention of negotiating an exit from the EU. Quite the opposite, she has delivered a deal that will keep us closer, without a seat at the table. This is extreme incompetence or she is a blatant liar.

She should be removed from office in the national interest, aside from the ongoing civil war in the Tory party.

Her record as home secretary was no better.

And this media friendly soft soaping about what a difficult week she has had and how Philip has supported her. It's a load of brainwashing nonsense, anyone who sucks it up it a fucking idiot. She's finished.

As that trainspotting, closet queer Portillo said on This Week, she has hold of the steering wheel, not willing to let go and is driving the car over the edge of the cliff. Unless someone does something we are on a suicide mission.

Someone in authority needs to get their thick fucking head around the negotiating position....Leave the customs union, leave the single market and leave the ECJ. Nothing else is going to cut the mustard.

As long as she is PM there will not be stability.  She threw that away when she called the last general election......another complete misjudgement.

[Guest 'eavensabove]

1 hour ago, Mrs Roops said:

Hardly an imposter, she secured the country's mandate in the 2017 general election.

But did we the English electorate, ask her too? 

[Guest Alfie Noakes]

1 hour ago, Lord Punkape said:

I feel for you....

Feel yourself more like.

[Guest 'eavensabove]

1 hour ago, The Beast said:

This whole shit show is entirely down to Mrs May, she has ultimate accountability.

Why are people scratching their heads wondering why the country has been plunged into a political crisis?

Seems obvious to me. She had no intention of negotiating an exit from the EU. Quite the opposite, she has delivered a deal that will keep us closer, without a seat at the table. This is extreme incompetence or she is a blatant liar.

She should be removed from office in the national interest, aside from the ongoing civil war in the Tory party.

Her record as home secretary was no better.

And this media friendly soft soaping about what a difficult week she has had and how Philip has supported her. It's a load of brainwashing nonsense, anyone who sucks it up it a fucking idiot. She's finished.

As that trainspotting, closet queer Portillo said on This Week, she has hold of the steering wheel, not willing to let go and is driving the car over the edge of the cliff. Unless someone does something we are on a suicide mission.

Someone in authority needs to get their thick fucking head around the negotiating position....Leave the customs union, leave the single market and leave the ECJ. Nothing else is going to cut the mustard.

As long as she is PM there will not be stability.  She threw that away when she called the last general election......another complete misjudgement.

Couldn't agree with you more. She, is ultimately responsible for the dire mess that this country is in. As Captain, she's employed the use of the totally inept working colleagues of hers, to govern the wrong departments, and just as like Thatcher she's never wrong. I don't think that May is taking her position seriously enough. She certainly doesn't realise the needs, or care for the needs, of those that she and her fellow idiots have enforced upon the average working man. Homelessness is rife, hospitals are barely coping and people are more skint today than they were ten or more years ago. If she really wants to help this country of hers, then she should pass Brexit over to those that know best, and get on with solving & sorting the issues that 'truly' matter to her people on a daily basis... if indeed she has the ability. 

[Guest Piston]

1 hour ago, The Beast said:

...

Someone in authority needs to get their thick fucking head around the negotiating position....Leave the customs union, leave the single market and leave the ECJ. Nothing else is going to cut the mustard.  ...

 

Absolutely agree, especially in view of :

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/the-top-40-horrors-lurking-in-the-small-print-of-theresa-mays-brexit-deal/

It's a long-ish list and some points are a bit feeble but it is, in the main, horrifying. I suggest hiding all instruments of self harm before reading.

So we really do need a government to tell (not fart-about negotiating) the EU that the joke is over and they can fuck off.

But such a no capitulation deal scenario cannot get through parliament. Comrade Gollum Corbyn's orcs will vote against anything proposed by anyone (except the great leader) and once you add in the business affiliations of some Tories then nothing can happen at all. Never mind the Irish/Scottish benefit seekers. Parliament is paralysed by parasitic self-interest.

We really need Guy Fawkes or, failing that... a general election and hope to clear the rats out of the pantry.

Thank fuck these buggers and the snowflakes weren't dominant in 1939 (and 1914), although it now looks as though all that history was gone though in vane.

If you have tears left to shed....

[Guest Piston]

2 hours ago, Mrs Roops said:

Hardly an imposter, she secured the country's mandate in the 2017 general election.

An autistic automaton attempting to impersonate a fully functional human being?

Speech patterns, flexibility, body language, behaviour in gathering of people...etc ... not really functional at all. Wrong person for the job.

[Guest Queefer]

6 minutes ago, Piston said:

Absolutely agree, especially in view of :

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/the-top-40-horrors-lurking-in-the-small-print-of-theresa-mays-brexit-deal/

It's a long-ish list and some points are a bit feeble but it is, in the main, horrifying. I suggest hiding all instruments of self harm before reading.

So we really do need a government to tell (not fart-about negotiating) the EU that the joke is over and they can fuck off.

But such a no capitulation deal scenario cannot get through parliament. Comrade Gollum Corbyn's orcs will vote against anything proposed by anyone (except the great leader) and once you add in the business affiliations of some Tories then nothing can happen at all. Never mind the Irish/Scottish benefit seekers. Parliament is paralysed by parasitic self-interest.

We really need Guy Fawkes or, failing that... a general election and hope to clear the rats out of the pantry.

Thank fuck these buggers and the snowflakes weren't dominant in 1939 (and 1914), although it now looks as though all that history was gone though in vane.

If you have tears left to shed....

Until somebody spoofs Barnier and his mates by saying we are off with no deal - (we are only telling them now so they can plan the closure of Audi, Mercedes, BMW and VW and Peugeot factories) - these cunts will not listen.

We have yet to field anybody who could "negotiate" their way out of a smelly fart in a phone box.

It's us who have them by the balls if only we could see it. What we all want is EU membership trading rights without free movement of EU citizens and without all the useless legislation and federalism the EU thrives upon.

Our withdrawal wrecks their money pissing budgets - hence their reluctance to permit it .

[cuntspotter]

No... I don’t see it. I am not a Tory but she was propelled into the shit by Cameron . I think she has an unenviable task... if there is no deal to be had.... then it’s no deal, surely?

[Cuntybaws]

24 minutes ago, Piston said:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/the-top-40-horrors-lurking-in-the-small-print-of-theresa-mays-brexit-deal/

I'll be fucked if I'm setting up an account with those Spectator cunts to read this.

Do us a favour, will you, and in contravention of all laws of copyright and common decency, cut and paste the entire article.

[The Beast]

5 minutes ago, cuntspotter said:

No... I don’t see it. I am not a Tory but she was propelled into the shit by Cameron . I think she has an unenviable task... if there is no deal to be had.... then it’s no deal, surely?

She only propelled herself into the shit. Nobody strong armed her into standing for leadership of the party. She knew the task in hand. She started negotiations with a clear mandate and a blank canvas. 

[Guest Piston]

Don't think it's just the money or most Europeans. The problem is The EU Project, which doesn't give a fuck about nations, democracy etc bu only is own survival.

It cannot allow escapees: this is a loss of people and resource to the project, others might follow. A free UK might be a competitor to the project or an obstacle to development.

A Singapore style financial centre, free to do its own thing on the EU border cannot be allowed at any cost. So the UK must either not leave or be chained, broken backed and helpless outside the Master's door...forever.

Europe can be our friend, the EU is an implacable enemy, because it has to be. It will finish if we stay linked . A clean break will be hard for a while but the alternative is what European dictators have sought to generations.

Still, we get, as a nation, what we deserve. Sigh.

 

[Cuntybaws]

2 hours ago, The Beast said:

Someone in authority needs to get their thick fucking head around the negotiating position....Leave the customs union, leave the single market and leave the ECJ. Nothing else is going to cut the mustard.

But there's also that pesky border. Does anyone see any actual downside in just selling Northern Ireland to Eire for a nominal pound? (Or a mere 1.12 Euros as things currently stand.) It would be cheaper than building a big fuck off 30 foot high wall along the entire length.

Pissing off some bowler-hatted Neanderthals would be an equally small price to pay. If they don't like it, re-house them all in Norfolk, which would have the added benefit of letting @Decimus experience first hand what poor old Glasgow has had to put up with for the last few centuries.

[PANZER MURPHY]

Wouldnt work baws baby..they've gotten used to getting £10 billion a year off y'all..

Panzbaby 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

20 minutes ago, cuntspotter said:

No... I don’t see it. I am not a Tory but she was propelled into the shit by Cameron . I think she has an unenviable task... if there is no deal to be had.... then it’s no deal, surely?

Nobody made Her. She put her name forward by her own choice, and for reasons only known by the Tories that put her there, she won the race, by the scruff of her neck. 

[Cuntybaws]

So you're saying you don't want us to give Ireland back to the Irish? Paul McCartney will be devastated, the droop-faced Scouse cunt that he is.

[Guest Piston]

15 minutes ago, Cuntybaws said:

I'll be fucked if I'm setting up an account with those Spectator cunts to read this.

Do us a favour, will you, and in contravention of all laws of copyright and common decency, cut and paste the entire article.

I don't have an account??

Google the spectator or go spectator.co.uk?

The article has move onto front page since I posted original link.

I've tried a copy/paste (thrice) but keeping some semblance of formatting is an arse...the original is a much easier and mor impactful read.

 

 

This week, Theresa May’s government teetered on the point of collapse over her proposed Brexit deal. The withdrawal agreement between the UK and Brussels led to Dominic Raab and Esther McVey resigning in protest. However, May’s remaining ministers have since attempted to rally around her at least in the short term. Speaking on Friday, Liam Fox – the International Trade Secretary – gave a speech in which he declared ‘a deal is better than no deal’. This is rather different to May’s old claim that ‘no deal is better than a bad deal’.

So, is Fox right? Mr S thought it best to let readers decide for themselves. In theory, Britain is leaving the EU on 29 March 2019. But the legal small print, published by Brussels, shows what this means. Parliament will be asked to ratify a deal which clearly admits that ‘all references to ‘Member States’ and competent authorities of Member States…shall be read as including the United Kingdom.’ (Article 7). So the UK will be bound by EU laws, at least during a transition period. But this ‘transition period’ can be be made to last forever (Article 132).  And even if a successor deal is agreed, the UK will have signed away other rights for years to come.

Just in case readers don’t have the time to go through the lengthly document themselves, Steerpike has compiled a list of the top 40 horrors lurking in the small print of Theresa May’s Brexit deal:

In summary: The supposed ‘transition period’ could last indefinitely or, more specifically, to an undefined date sometime this century (“up to 31 December 20XX”, Art. 132). So while this Agreement covers what the government is calling Brexit, what we in fact get is: ‘transition’ + extension indefinitely (by however many years we are willing to pay for) + all of those extra years from the ‘plus 8 years’ articles.

Should it end within two years, as May hopes, the UK will still be signed up to clauses keeping us under certain rules (like VAT and ECJ supervision) for a further eight years. Some clauses have, quite literally, a “lifetime” duration (Art.39). If the UK defaults on transition, we go in to the backstop with the Customs Union and, realistically, the single market. We can only leave the transition positively with a deal. But we sign away the money. So the EU has no need to give us a deal, and certainly no incentive to make the one they offered ‘better’ than the backstop. The European Court of Justice remains sovereign, as repeatedly stipulated. Perhaps most damagingly of all, we agree to sign away the rights we would have, under international law, to unilaterally walk away. Again, what follows relates (in most part) for the “transition” period. But the language is consistent with the E.U. imagining that this will be the final deal.

The top 40 horrors:

    From the offset, we should note that this is an EU text, not a UK or international text. This has one source. The Brexit agreement is written in Brussels.
   

May says her deal means the UK leaves the EU next March. The Withdrawal Agreement makes a mockery of this. “All references to Member States and competent authorities of Member States…shall be read as including the United Kingdom.” (Art 6). Not quite what most people understand by Brexit. It goes on to spell out that the UK will be in the EU but without any MEPs, a commissioner or ECJ judges. We are effectively a Member State, but we are excused – or, more accurately, excluded – from attending summits. (Article 7)
   

The European Court of Justice is decreed to be our highest court, governing the entire Agreement – Art. 4. stipulates that both citizens and resident companies can use it. Art 4.2 orders our courts to recognise this. “If the European Commission considers that the United Kingdom has failed to fulfil an obligation under the Treaties or under Part Four of this Agreement before the end of the transition period, the European Commission may, within 4 years after the end of the transition period, bring the matter before the Court of Justice of the European Union”. (Art. 87)
   

The jurisdiction of the ECJ will last until eight years after the end of the transition period. (Article 158).
   

The UK will still be bound by any future changes to EU law in which it will have no say, not to mention having to comply with current law. (Article 6(2))
   

Any disputes under the Agreement will be decided by EU law only – one of the most dangerous provisions. (Article 168). This cuts the UK off from International Law, something we’d never do with any foreign body.

Arbitration will be governed by the existing procedural rules of the EU law – this is not arbitration as we would commonly understand it (i.e. between two independent parties). (Article 174)
   

“UNDERLINING that this Agreement is founded on an overall balance of benefits, rights and obligations for the Union and the United Kingdom” No, it should be based upon the binding legal obligations upon the EU contained within Article 50. It is wrong to suggest otherwise.
   

The tampon tax clause: We obey EU laws on VAT, with no chance of losing the tampon tax even if we agree a better deal in December 2020 because we hereby agree to obey other EU VAT rules for **five years** after the transition period. Current EU rules prohibit 0-rated VAT on products (like tampons) that did not have such exemptions before the country joined the EU.
   

Several problems with the EU’s definitions: “Union law” is too widely defined and “United Kingdom national” is defined by the Lisbon Treaty: we should given away our right to define our citizens.

The “goods” and the term “services” we are promised the deal are not defined – or, rather, will be defined however the EU wishes them to be. Thus far, this a non-defined term so far. This agreement fails to define it.
   

The Mandelson Pension Clause: The UK must promise never to tax former EU officials based here – such as Peter Mandelson or Neil Kinnock – on their E.U. pensions, or tax any current Brussels bureaucrats on their salaries. The EU and its employees are to be immune to our tax laws. (Article 104)
   

Furthermore, the UK agrees not to prosecute EU employees who are, or who might be deemed in future, criminals (Art.101)
   

The GDPR clause. The General Data Protection Regulation – the EU’s stupidest law ever? – is to be bound into UK law (Articles 71 to 73). There had been an expectation in some quarters that the UK could get out of it.
   

The UK establishes a ‘Joint Committee’ with EU representatives to guarantee ‘the implementation and application of this Agreement’. This does not sound like a withdrawal agreement – if it was, why would it need to be subject to continued monitoring? (Article 164). This Joint Committee will have subcommittees with jurisdiction over: (a) citizens’ rights; (b) “other separation provisions”; (c) Ireland/Northern Ireland; (d) Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus; (e) Gibraltar; and (f) financial provisions. (Article 165)
   

The Lifetime clause: the agreement will last as long as the country’s youngest baby lives. “the persons covered by this Part shall enjoy the rights provided for in the relevant Titles of this Part for their lifetime”. (Article 39).
 

   The UK is shut out of all EU networks and databases for security – yet no such provision exists to shut the EU out of ours. (Article 😎
   

The UK will tied to EU foreign policy, “bound by the obligations stemming from the international agreements concluded by the Union” but unable to influence such decisions. (Article 124)
   

All EU citizens must be given permanent right of residence after five years – but what counts as residence? This will be decided by the EU, rather than UK rules. (Articles 15-16)
   

Britain is granted the power to send a civil servant to Brussels to watch them pass stupid laws which will hurt our economy. (Article 34)
   

he UK agrees to spend taxpayers’ money telling everyone how wonderful the agreement is. (Article 37)
   

Art 40 defines Goods. It seems to includes Services and Agriculture. We may come to discover that actually ‘goods’ means everything.
   

Articles 40-49 practically mandate the UK’s ongoing membership of the Customs Union in all but name.
   

The UK will be charged to receive the data/information we need in order to comply with EU law. (Article 50)
   

The EU will continue to set rules for UK intellectual property law (Article 54 to 61)
   

The UK will effectively be bound by a non-disclosure agreement swearing us to secrecy regarding any EU developments we have paid to be part. This is not mutual. The EU is not bound by such measures. (Article 74)
   

The UK is bound by EU rules on procurement rules – which effectively forbids us from seeking better deals elsewhere. (Articles 75 to 78)
   

We give up all rights to any data the EU made with our money (Art. 103)
   

The EU decide capital projects (too broadly defined) the UK is liable for. (Art. 144)
   

The UK is bound by EU state aid laws until future agreement – even in the event of an agreement, this must wait four years to be valid. (Article 93)
   

Similar advantages and immunities are extended to all former MEPs and to former EU official more generally. (Articles 106-116)
   

The UK is forbidden from revealing anything the EU told us or tells us about the finer points of deal and its operation. (Article 105).
   

Any powers the UK parliament might have had to mitigate EU law are officially removed. (Article 128)
   

he UK shall be liable for any “outstanding commitments” after 2022 (Article 142(2) expressly mentions pensions, which gives us an idea as to who probably negotiated this). The amount owed will be calculated by the EU. (Articles 140-142)
   

The UK will be liable for future EU lending. As anyone familiar with the EU’s financials knows, this is not good. (Article143)
   

The UK will remain liable for capital projects approved by the European Investment Bank. (Article 150).
   

The UK will remain a ‘party’ (i.e. cough up money) for the European Development Fund. (Articles 152-154)
   

And the EU continues to calculate how much money the UK should pay it. So thank goodness Brussels does not have any accountancy issues.
   

The UK will remain bound (i.e coughing up money) to the European Union Emergency Trust Fund – which deals with irregular migration (i.e. refugees) and displaced persons heading to Europe. (Article 155)
   

The agreement will be policed by ‘the Authority’ – a new UK-based body with ‘powers equivalent to those of the European Commission’. (Article 159)
   

The EU admits, in Art. 184, that it is in breach of  Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty which oblige it to “conclude an agreement” of the terms of UK leaving the EU. We must now, it seems, “negotiate expeditiously the agreements governing their future relationship.” And if the EU does not? We settle down to this Agreement.
   

And, of course, the UK will agree to pay £40bn to receive all of these ‘privileges’. (Article 138)

 

Best I can do...
 

[PANZER MURPHY]

1 minute ago, Cuntybaws said:

So you're saying you don't want us to give Ireland back to the Irish? Paul McCartney will be devastated, the droop-faced Scouse cunt that he is.

Ah that ship sailed long ago baws baby..y'all can keep it as far as im concerned...diffrent  breed up there..better off with you lot 

Panzbaby