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1 hour ago, The Beast said:

The minimum wage and fox hunting were mere tit bits thrown to the left to appease them, nothing more. As for bender's marriage, the completion of the civil partnership legislation into full marriage was under the coalition government. All schools and hospitals built with private capital that will prove more expensive than a managed state building program. The total deregulation of financial markets and the advent of casino banking. Pretty capitalist sell your own granny for fucking profit conservative doctrine. Tax avoidance escalated greatly under his tenure, remember Mandleson's filthy rich comments. I don't need to mention the war in Iraq. The cunt even admired Mrs Fucking Thatcher. 

Re the EU, entry to it without consent, by the Tories and many major treaties giving away power signed without consent by Tories. He continued this direction of travel.

He had no need to move the party anywhere near to the centre. At best he was a compassionate conservative or at worse a neo conservative globalist shill.

What you see now in catweazle/Steptoe is a proper labour socialist. I don't want it any more than you do, but there is not any ambiguity with the cunt, unlike Mr Fucking Blur.

The minimum wage and the ban of fox hunting would never have happened under the previous administration, titbits or not, they were genuine left wing policies. Full gay marriage was legalised under the coalition, but the path to this was started under a Labour government, and full legalisation was a natural process that would have happened under any government due to societal pressure. The initial legislation though, can not by any stretch of the imagination be described as a policy that fits in with a conservative, right wing ideology. None of this fits in with your contention that Blair was Tory-lite.

As for the deregulation of the financial markets, plus the introduction of limited privatisation of the health and education systems, this was matched by high public spending, including doubling the governments spend on healthcare in real terms between 1997-2010. Any true blue conservative would have adapted the former, but not bothered with increased state spending, which is after all, total anethema to classic conservative thinking.

As for his dealings with the EU being an inspired continuation of Conservative policies, look at the average Tory's opinion on Europe, you're seeing it every day in the news. You can't claim closer integration with the EU is a conservative ideology just because they started the process, it's not, the Euroscepticism inherent in their party makes that pretty clear. The European project by its nature is a left-wing entity, you can't pin conservative sympathies on Blair and state that his endorsement of it was right-wing in nature.

Again, I'm not stating that Blair was a genuine socialist, he wasn't. But look at his record, socially his tenure was left wing, and economically it was a mix of both the right and left. That's not like any conservative government I know of prior to 1997. 

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That cunt Blair had one objective after a couple of years in power, he wanted to be President of the EU, he's still hankering for that call up today, or else he'd be sat at home counting all the fuckin' money he's made since he left his gullible mate Gordon in charge of the sinking ship.

Fuck him, fuck them, and fuck the EU, there's a place in hell for the lot of 'em! 😏

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2 hours ago, Decimus said:

As for his dealings with the EU being an inspired continuation of Conservative policies, look at the average Tory's opinion on Europe, you're seeing it every day in the news. You can't claim closer integration with the EU is a conservative ideology just because they started the process, it's not, the Euroscepticism inherent in their party makes that pretty clear. The European project by its nature is a left-wing entity, you can't pin conservative sympathies on Blair and state that his endorsement of it was right-wing in nature.

Well, yes one can, sort of. Not forgetting that Ted Heath was a rabid European integrationist, Mrs Thatcher who was always sceptical about the EEC was, against her better judgment, persuaded by successive chancellors, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson and then John Major to sign up to the ERM (a mechanism designed to align European states for economic and monetary union and the single currency). As we know, the UK ignominiously dropped out of the ERM on Black Wednesday.

Mrs Thatcher was also reluctant to sign up to any further integration but was forced out of her premiership to be replaced by John Major, who aided and abetted by rapid pro Europeans, Deputy PM Heseltine, Chancellor Ken Clarke and Foreign Secretary Douglas Hurd, signed up to the Maastricht Treaty. To placate a minority but vocal and powerful Tory rebel base (famously described by Major as "The Bastards") Major negotiated that the word "Federal would be omitted from the document, hence "European Union" rather than "Federal Union of European States". Major also negotiated an opt out of joining the Euro Zone. It was (and still is) argued that Major should have asked the country via a referendum prior to signing Maastricht due to the level of sovereignty being transferred to Brussels.

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6 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

Well, yes one can, sort of. Not forgetting that Ted Heath was a rabid European integrationist, Mrs Thatcher who was always sceptical about the EEC was, against her better judgment, persuaded by successive chancellors, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson and then John Major to sign up to the ERM (a mechanism designed to align European states for economic and monetary union and the single currency). As we know, the UK ignominiously dropped out of the ERM on Black Wednesday.

Mrs Thatcher was also reluctant to sign up to any further integration but was forced out of her premiership to be replaced by John Major, who aided and abetted by rapid pro Europeans, Deputy PM Heseltine, Chancellor Ken Clarke and Foreign Secretary Douglas Hurd, signed up to the Maastricht Treaty. To placate a minority but vocal and powerful Tory rebel base (famously described by Major as "The Bastards") Major negotiated that the word "Federal would be omitted from the document, hence "European Union" rather than "Federal Union of European States". Major also negotiated an opt out of joining the Euro Zone. It was (and still is) argued that Major should have asked the country via a referendum prior to signing Maastricht due to the level of sovereignty being transferred to Brussels.

Agreed, but this was, as you state, always the position of a minority within the Conservative party and can't be argued as a right wing example of classic Conservatism that Blair aped.

Regardless of whether anybody agrees with what Blair did in government, on balance, despite elements of centre-right policies, his administration was largely centre-left. He described himself as being on that side of the political spectrum, and most political commentators without a serious left wing bias have assessed that to be the case.

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3 minutes ago, ratcum said:

Look, people are still going round saying "mercy buckets". Am I the only person on here killing them and their immediate family? What the fuck are you bastards doing about it?

Cunts

I once overheard some cunt say "Bon jour, mon sewer". His tripe was on the floor before he even knew I had a blade.

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46 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

Well, yes one can, sort of. Not forgetting that Ted Heath was a rabid European integrationist, Mrs Thatcher who was always sceptical about the EEC was, against her better judgment, persuaded by successive chancellors, Geoffrey Howe, Nigel Lawson and then John Major to sign up to the ERM (a mechanism designed to align European states for economic and monetary union and the single currency). As we know, the UK ignominiously dropped out of the ERM on Black Wednesday.

Mrs Thatcher was also reluctant to sign up to any further integration but was forced out of her premiership to be replaced by John Major, who aided and abetted by rapid pro Europeans, Deputy PM Heseltine, Chancellor Ken Clarke and Foreign Secretary Douglas Hurd, signed up to the Maastricht Treaty. To placate a minority but vocal and powerful Tory rebel base (famously described by Major as "The Bastards") Major negotiated that the word "Federal would be omitted from the document, hence "European Union" rather than "Federal Union of European States". Major also negotiated an opt out of joining the Euro Zone. It was (and still is) argued that Major should have asked the country via a referendum prior to signing Maastricht due to the level of sovereignty being transferred to Brussels.

British Rail actually received a lot of investment later in the Thatcher era and had she remained in power that investment would have continued. True it is likely that the railway would have been privatised in the 2000s but it would have been fit and ready. Major and his cronies turned the tap of and went headlong into a very expensive botched privatisation.

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2 hours ago, Decimus said:

Agreed, but this was, as you state, always the position of a minority within the Conservative party and can't be argued as a right wing example of classic Conservatism that Blair aped.

Regardless of whether anybody agrees with what Blair did in government, on balance, despite elements of centre-right policies, his administration was largely centre-left. He described himself as being on that side of the political spectrum, and most political commentators without a serious left wing bias have assessed that to be the case.

For me, the defining moment that exposed Blair was during PMQs. He was asked what did he and his government stand for. Blair, normally a quick thinking and competent dispatch box performer was clearly flummoxed and mumbled something about the NHS and the appointment of Magdi Yacoub. I'm sure that at the start of his parliamentary career he started with good soft socialist intentions, but along the way he succumbed to red carpet fever and became fascinated with wealth. Post premiership his LLP consultancy has earned a fortune advising disreputable regimes mainly former Soviet States. That said, his preoccupation as PM was to leave a legacy - he was an admirer of Mrs Thatcher and her legacy and part explains why he did not pass the baton to Gordon Brown sooner than he did. Well, he has got his legacy and will be forever remembered, though not in the way he hoped.

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Tommy Robinson has royally fucked over panorama. Lol. The last 25 minutes is a joy to watch as he completely destroys John Sweeney the hypocritical cunt.

The sound is shit in places as this is somebody filming the public showing that took place outside the BBC media centre on Saturday.

 

 

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On 11/02/2019 at 05:05, Couldn't give a shit said:

This is still developing but the shit is likely to hit the fan within the next couple of days.

A video by Tommy Robinson has appeared on the Army Rumour service claiming that he is about to serve an injunction on the BBC preventing Panorama from running a hit piece on him that had the working title of "the Tommy Robinson Takedown". 

Apparently, somebody he slipped onto the production staff has recorded a shitload of footage of BBC production staff making some serious derogatory remarks about the working class, blackmailing people into making false statements about TR and doctoring footage. To top it all off, they had Bill Sticker's mates the Marxist filth of Hope not Hate supervising it all. There is another video of TR at BBC HQ confronting Jon Sweeney and a beeb executive with this evidence which unbeknownst to them was recorded by one of their own and clearly displays their astonishment at being fucked.over at their own game.

If this is as big as it would seem it can be expected that there will be few resignations at Biased Bullshit Cuntfest within the next few days. 

There appears to be a news blackout on this as further details are hard to find but I'm reliably informed that this could be for legal reasons.

Mr Robinson, I salute you!

 

 

Another desperate name drop for Big Dick Bill.

Tommy robinson again exposed, as has been done time and time again, for exactly what he is; a thick as fuck, hateful football hooligan who hit the big time by appealing to other thick as fuck, hateful cunts. 

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7 hours ago, William T.D. Stickers said:

Another desperate name drop for Big Dick Bill.

Tommy robinson again exposed, as has been done time and time again, for exactly what he is; a thick as fuck, hateful football hooligan who hit the big time by appealing to other thick as fuck, hateful cunts. 

Have you even bothered to watch the entire film or were you too busy wanking over the latest edition of socialist worker?

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2 hours ago, Couldn't give a shit said:

Have you even bothered to watch the entire film or were you too busy wanking over the latest edition of socialist worker?

Can you send me a new copy? The pages are all stuck together. 

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3 hours ago, Couldn't give a shit said:

Have you even bothered to watch the entire film or were you too busy wanking over the latest edition of socialist worker?

Understanding that you have a medical background and a realisation that the average human lifespan is around 80 years .. would you think that it is worth a single second of that lifespan listening to anything that this "Robinson" buffoon has to say?

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5 minutes ago, The Bishop said:

Understanding that you have a medical background and a realisation that the average human lifespan is around 80 years .. would you think that it is worth a single second of that lifespan listening to anything that this "Robinson" buffoon has to say?

Jesus fucking Christ, how many times do I have to tell you that this isn't @Last Cunt Standing

I don't know how much more of this libelling of the good doctor I can take.

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