Rick_B

As I said, never underestimate Jeremy Corbyn.

I voted Labour, so no surprise I suppose. The other parties were an irrelevance, it was down to whether or not you wanted The Maybot with a big unassailable majority, the only reason she called this election. It was nothing to do with Brexit negotiations, the Tory lead in the polls was irresistible.

If you watched the Tommy Robinson videos you should at least watch this too. He's a comedian so it starts off with a few jokes, but what he says is reality.

5 minutes ago, Alfie Noakes said:

The mutilation of boys should be banned. The Jewish community may find it difficult but it is wrong too.

Yes, all such things are wrong and shouldn't be allowed here.

17 minutes ago, 'eavensabove said:

I'm certainly not wallowing or winding myself up at all, My Lad. 

Hey, at least I've got the most sensible of conclusions from the pair of us. I don't see You coming up with any kind of alternative that would rid this country of its ongoing threat. It's not going to get any better you know, simply by lighting candles and staying silent for two minuets every other fucking week. Muslims, are our enemy, and the sooner you wise up to that?

You don't have an alternative that would rid this country of it's ongoing threat. You have a rant. Muslims are not our enemy, Islamist extremists are.

2 hours ago, The Beast said:

Yes, an incontrovertible fact. So we have to think differently as I have said previously re violence, attacking mosques, internment etc is futile.

The practices of this religion have to be targeted instead. We live in an ever more gender equal society. Muslim practices effectively discriminate against these laws, unhealthy percentages of women are unemployed, unable to speak English and are effectively kept in servitude. Not to mention the barbarism of FGM practiced by many people from Sub Saharan countries. As I repeatedly state, we have the laws to deal with these people, but we simply do not have the political will to deal with them.

I have no problem with that. Religious intolerance I don't agree with, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't challenge religious beliefs where we feel they are wrong, whether that is Muslims discriminating against women or fundamentalist Christians discriminating against gay people. FGM and what went on in Rotherham are not in any way acceptable in the UK and there is no justification for allowing them. Respect for religions should not equate to making any religion above the law and it seems that in these cases it was allowed to. 

2 minutes ago, Ollyboro said:

Theresa Maybe is thinking about possibly giving convicted terrorists tougher sentences. Salman Abedi must be shitting his pants...knowing that as soon as he starts fucking breathing again, he's off to gaol.

I would suggest that The Maybot is thinking about what will appeal to the Daily Mail and Sun readers ahead of the election.

2 hours ago, 'eavensabove said:

What bollox... It is for a Jury to decide innocence or guilt. 

For you to say that there is no good reason to close down Mosques, is an insult not only to yourself, but also to all those that have been killed these past few weeks. What if they were Crack Dens? Mosques, are the scum of this country. To fuck with the rest of the world. We've our own fucking battle to deal with... I'd wager the Mushies were whooping and punching the air behind the closed doors and the sanctuary of 99% of all Mosques throughout England. 

It is not only the Mosques that need to be closed down (immediately) the Burka should be banned outright too, before then fucking-off each and every Muslin cunt that lives here. Period. Every last one of them, and by force if necessary. It's high-time we showed these fucking Regimes of yours who we are, what we are and what we think the fuck of them. Fart-arsing around (like you would have it) is well past its sell by date. 

Yeah that will work wont it? You are using these tragic events to wallow in your own prejudice and indulge in pointless unhelpful and counterproductive rants to wind yourself and others up. 

What if they were crack dens? Well you would have to show that they were selling crack.

"I'd wager the Mushies were whooping and punching the air behind the closed doors and the sanctuary of 99% of all Mosques throughout England." Seriously are you out of your mind, I mean do you really believe this stuff? These events are bad news for ordinary Muslims, it's highly likely that hate crimes will increase in the coming days and weeks.

Regarding the Burka I'll be honest I don't like it at all. What is sad is that this really didn't exist in this country until a few years ago and I wonder and worry about what forces are causing Muslim women to wear this wretched thing now.

24 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Nonsense again, I was just pointing out that rick can show sympathy for everyone except someone frustrated individual with a paint tin.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by showing sympathy, presumably you actually mean showing empathy, with but if you are including terrorists in that you are very much wrong and I resent the implication.

20 minutes ago, 'eavensabove said:

Oh yes you can... We have a law that is known as 'Conspiracy' and it is punishable by imprisonment whether or not any crime has been carried out or committed. And if Mosques are not a place where conspiracy to bomb us is not taking place, then I'm a Chinaman. They should all be closed down as meeting places of the very people who conspire against us, and the attendees should be charged with conspiracy. Let them then prove otherwise in a British Court of Law.  

The onus in a British Court of Law  is for the prosecution to prove guilt, not for the defendant to prove innocence. If you think you could make a charge of conspiracy stick because someone attended a Mosque therefore they must have been conspiring to bomb people feel free to knock yourself out.

Let's go with your "solution" to close all Mosques. Do you think the people who once attended them will simply stop meeting up? No of course they wont, except you wont know where they are meeting now, but you will know that they now have a grievance because you closed their Mosque down for no good reason. A number of regimes around the world have tried to oppress religions and it has never worked in the long term.

I'm with the prof on this one.

In what way does the childish act of scribbling Muslim Cowards on Thornaby Mosque help anything? There is no suggestion that this Mosque has been in any way promoting Islamist extremism. Time for these kind of idiots to grow up and realise that they are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

1 minute ago, Eric Cuntman said:

And he's missing the point again, if it was run properly, they wouldn't be leaving.

Did it stop terrorism? No it didn't. Dragging people off the streets and sending them to a concentration camp to be tortured without a trial didn't work, it just fuelled hatred of The West.

37 minutes ago, Stubby Pecker said:

Cobblers. Any extremist will be laughing their tits off at the defiant response of Justin cunting beiber telling every victim that he loves them. You've just said you can't scare cunts prepared to die for their ideology so the gloves have to come off or the terrorists keep winning

We all know that Justin Beiber is crap, but it's not really relevant to this.

I expect I'll come to regret posting this here, but I'm going to anyway. Ariana Grande's version of Over The Rainbow was breathtaking, if you aren't touched by this you aint got no soul, and I don't normally like this kind of stuff.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/see-ariana-grandes-emotional-somewhere-over-the-rainbow-w485756

30 minutes ago, The Lady Penelope said:

We need more of these establishments only harsher and with no rights to practice their religious beliefs.

A cracking idea, Guantanamo Bay is the biggest recruiting agent for Islamist terrorists.

And breathe.

10 minutes ago, The Lady Penelope said:

I have to admit that if I was a terrorist and I had seen what Rick had posted I would be shit scared coz what he has written is so cutting

It's not about scaring them Pen, you can't scare people who are prepared to die for their ideology. What tonight was about was defiance, showing them that we aren't scared of them. Innocent kids were murdered, but the crowd turned up anyway. The terrorists failed.

15 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

You've stole my rose tinted specs haven't you? You knew I was away and you stole them. Somebody call a constable. You bastard 

I'm not making a habit of it, but you can have a like for that.

I've been dipping in and out of the Manchester One Love concert. It probably wont surprise you that a lot of it is not really my kind of music. What is impressive and encouraging  at a pretty depressing time is that here is a huge crowd of predominantly young people giving a massage of defiance to these terrorists. They are not frightened, they are not consumed by anger or bitterness and they are sending a message that these people can't divide us and can shove it. Which do you think pisses the terrorists off more, that or rants about internment and targeting the Muslim community as a whole?

Doubtless in the coming days there will be attacks on individual Muslims and bricks going through the windows of Mosques etc. Do you think the likes of ISIS give a shit about this? They don't worry about injuring or killing us because we are infidels. What you need to know is that they don't give a shit about ordinary Muslims either, because in their twisted ideology if Muslims don't support their ideology and their ridiculous caliphate they are infidels too.

5 hours ago, Wolfie said:

What now, Rick? Shall we continue 'talking with the Muslim community'?

Shut down the mosques. All of them. Period.

Yes we continue talking with the Muslim community, it's more important than ever that we do. Keeping a closer eye on what goes on in Mosques is something we should have done 10-20 years ago when there is no doubt that there were a few firebrand Imams touring the Mosques deliberately winding  up young Muslims to commit acts of violence. Now they are increasingly irrelevant as far as radicalisation is concerned. In fact a number of Mosques have set up anti-radicalisation programs, which given that Prevent doesn't seem to be working very well is to be welcomed. The real problem now is the internet and social media.

They were in fact called The Silver Beetles for a while in the early days.

7 hours ago, Punkape said:

Sounds to me like you may have been complicit in the abortion process yourself......... 

Seek a priest and ask God for forgiveness.....

If you must post this bollox perhaps you would be kind enough to post it just the once.

13 minutes ago, Tata Steely Dan said:

Sounds like the thick right-wingers are worried he's going to win!

Who knows what will happen, but there is a bit of panic for sure. It really wasn't supposed to end up this close. May called the election, having repeatedly said she wouldn't, for one reason and one reason only which was nothing to do with Brexit negotiations. The opinion polls were irresistible, five years of a gigantic Tory majority and the virtual disintegration of The Labour party were looking highly likely.

Never underestimate Jeremy Corbyn, he was 200-1 to win the Labour leadership contest.

9 minutes ago, Wolfie said:

It was – decades ago. Little has changed, other than it's getting worse. Islam as a whole is providing a vehicle for extremism to flourish. For this reason, don't you think it's time for a harder approach?

What does that mean though? I've never said it's going to be easy, Northern Ireland wasn't easy, but you have to keep the good people in any conflict on the side of peace.You can't negotiate with the likes of ISIS, what they want can't be allowed to happen, but it's vital to talk to the Muslim community as a whole otherwise you fuel the idea that it's us against them and that will lead to more ammunition for those who want to create terrorists.

17 minutes ago, Snatch said:

They were discovered in Hamburg where alot of British talent where playing the clubs. It was only after that they became big in the UK.

If no-one had heard them by chance in Hamburg the chances are none of us would of heard them.

True enough, but better that surely than being catapulted into fame by some dreadful TV talent show.