I have been looking at the live updats on the case. It looks like Pencille is a prime example of the dangers for some people of care in the community .. regardless of the rights and wrongs of the original argument Pencille stabbed Lee Pomeroy 18 times in 25 seconds .. that takes a lot strength , anger and a very sharp and robust weapon which he should not have been carrying. The background to Pencille is that he is a dianosed paranoid schizophrenic who thinks that people are looking at him and are a threat to him, which means that he is an obvious danger to other people .. forty years ago there is little doubt that he would have been locked away in secure accommodation. Another very real concern now is that not only are people like him are at liberty but they are also being allowed to breed .. usually of course choosing a partner who is equally fuckwitted as themselves and thus increasing the likelihood that their offspring will be equally useless and a danger to society in general. If we are not going to eliminate them then they need to somewhere where they can do something useful such as being set to walk within treadwheels for 14 hours a day driving generators to provide electricity.