Super Car Sunday’s BBC III

[Bubba C]

Just now, sean5302 said:

Sourced within the UK is nonsensical when such parts emanate from abroad.

I visited a turbocharger manufacturer in Bradford, Borg-Warner, who proudly stated their units were made in the UK. The reality was that every single part had been bought from abroad.

Made in the UK normally means assembled in the UK. I was a regular visitor to JLR UK plants. I don't recognise your figures.

In terms of the software map, it was written to produce exactly the performance we required. It makes no material difference which team wrote it. It is standard industry software, used by almost every manufacturer. It certainly wasn't hidden away. Very few people can read a software map.

Is your username related to how many posts you’re going to make before becoming the least bit interesting or entertaining? 

[Guest sean5302]

37 minutes ago, Cuntybaws said:

Just that if you are going to be rude and annoy and upset people, and flounce off in a big huff, then you'll fit in here perfectly. No cunt ever got kicked off the Corner for being too polite.

I spent a lot of time on AV Forum over several years. I got sick and tired of uneducated people asking for my help with their vehicles and then criticising me for using cambelts instead of chains, and that type of thing. I don't set out to annoy or upset anyone. It's they who get annoyed and upset. I recall upsetting one bloke who couldn't find the dipstick on his VW Polo, despite my telling him precisely where and precisely what colour it was.

I advised him to sit behind the steering wheel and he would find the dipstick on the driver's seat.

[Guest DrCunt]

1 hour ago, Decimus said:

So this tiny corner of the internet is now home to yet another captain of industry.

In residence we have got a multi-million pound property developer, a doctor, an ex-director of engineering at VW and a writer of scientific papers.

If only it wasnt all complete bullshit, we could enter a team on Eggheads.

I can see it now... Eggheads vs The Cunts. Frank getting torn a new one by thickest Egghead, Judith. Punkers lamenting the fact that he is no longer able to go tête-à-tête with CJ, Ratters taking on Barry, and Roops, flying solo in the final after we're all knocked out, wiping the floor with the entire Egghead team.

Where do we sign up?

[Guest sean5302]

4 minutes ago, Bubba C said:

Is your username related to how many posts you’re going to make before becoming the least bit interesting or entertaining? 

No, 5302 relates to the old Leeds dialling code 0532.

I found many Forums wouldn't recognise the first 0 so I wrote as is.

Thanks for your interest.

[Guest sean5302]

12 minutes ago, southerncunt said:

If an emissions test is measuring exhaust gases at particular engine revs, let's say 800rpm while a vehicle is idling, why would I not let the ECU adjust the mixture so that the emissions are minimised in the areas demanded by politicians?There is no subterfuge and the ECU map delivers what is requested by them. If you want low CO2, I can deliver that, but adversely affecting NOx, and vice-versa. I cannot change chemical or physical laws. We have had to introduce new chemistry to neutralise the effects, ie Urea technology. It gives wose results for vehicle performance, environmental cleanliness and consumer cost, but that is what the politicians have now asked for.

Motorsport teams employ people to find loopholes in rules all the time. It is the only was progress is made. The entire Dieselgate will have one upside though, and that is to accelerate to demise of diesel power in passenger cars. 

Exactly right.

If you recall, my objective many years ago was to reduce CO2 emissions from vehicle exhausts. My team achieved that spectacularly as did the whole Group by persuading people to buy diesel engined cars. Gordon Brown was a prime proponent in persuading the electorate to change. look at the vehicle excise duty rates in favour of low-CO2 vehicles, ie diesels.

We can make whatever the customer thinks they want.

How about mining rare earth minerals, sticking them in a vehicle whose electrics run at 400 Volts, providing an ICE as back up propulsion and using lithium aluminium hydride batteries?

You end up with something that cost the earth to make, has bomb-like explosive batteries and cables under your seat that would literally kill you in a flash.

All-electric cars? Yes, we can do that. Where will you plug them in? Where are the power stations? Where will the tax come from if you're not buying petrol and diesel currently taxed at 340%?

A barrel of oil is 150 litres and costs $50 or 33 cents, 24p per litre. Add a few pence for refining and transport plus a bit of profit and all the rest is tax. If you don't pay that, where will the Doleys get their money?

[Cuntybaws]

34 minutes ago, sean5302 said:

No, 5302 relates to the old Leeds dialling code 0532.

I found many Forums wouldn't recognise the first 0 so I wrote as is.

Thanks for your interest.

And here I had you down as Scunthorpe.

[Bubba C]

2 hours ago, sean5302 said:

No, 5302 relates to the old Leeds dialling code 0532.

I found many Forums wouldn't recognise the first 0 so I wrote as is.

Thanks for your interest.

Fascinating. Fuck off, you disgusting northern pig. 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

2 hours ago, DrCunt said:

I can see it now... Eggheads vs The Cunts. Frank getting torn a new one by thickest Egghead, Judith. Punkers lamenting the fact that he is no longer able to go tête-à-tête with CJ, Ratters taking on Barry, and Roops, flying solo in the final after we're all knocked out, wiping the floor with the entire Egghead team.

Where do we sign up?

The Missing Link springs into mind.

[Guest 'eavensabove]

2 hours ago, sean5302 said:

I spent a lot of time on AV Forum over several years. I got sick and tired of uneducated people asking for my help with their vehicles and then criticising me for using cambelts instead of chains, and that type of thing. I don't set out to annoy or upset anyone. It's they who get annoyed and upset. I recall upsetting one bloke who couldn't find the dipstick on his VW Polo, despite my telling him precisely where and precisely what colour it was.

I advised him to sit behind the steering wheel and he would find the dipstick on the driver's seat.

I see! And so he purchased the said vehicle from You, did he?  You're beginning to make sense.  It was only a question of time. 

[Guest Erroreptile404]

1 hour ago, sean5302 said:

Exactly right.

If you recall, my objective many years ago was to reduce CO2 emissions from vehicle exhausts. My team achieved that spectacularly as did the whole Group by persuading people to buy diesel engined cars. Gordon Brown was a prime proponent in persuading the electorate to change. look at the vehicle excise duty rates in favour of low-CO2 vehicles, ie diesels.

We can make whatever the customer thinks they want.

How about mining rare earth minerals, sticking them in a vehicle whose electrics run at 400 Volts, providing an ICE as back up propulsion and using lithium aluminium hydride batteries?

You end up with something that cost the earth to make, has bomb-like explosive batteries and cables under your seat that would literally kill you in a flash.

All-electric cars? Yes, we can do that. Where will you plug them in? Where are the power stations? Where will the tax come from if you're not buying petrol and diesel currently taxed at 340%?

A barrel of oil is 150 litres and costs $50 or 33 cents, 24p per litre. Add a few pence for refining and transport plus a bit of profit and all the rest is tax. If you don't pay that, where will the Doleys get their money?

Fascinating stuff so much so that i couldn't even be arsed to skim read it. 

What do you make of the methane emissions emanating from your posts? 

Wow 12 years ago i was still in my teens while you were on another forum waffling on about fucking emissions, ECUs, humidifiers, carbon modulators and whatever boring fucking shit you're going on about.

Fook orrf ye cunt ye

[Mrs Roops]

3 hours ago, sean5302 said:

Sourced within the UK is nonsensical when such parts emanate from abroad.

I visited a turbocharger manufacturer in Bradford, Borg-Warner, who proudly stated their units were made in the UK. The reality was that every single part had been bought from abroad.

Made in the UK normally means assembled in the UK. I was a regular visitor to JLR UK plants. I don't recognise your figures.

In terms of the software map, it was written to produce exactly the performance we required. It makes no material difference which team wrote it. It is standard industry software, used by almost every manufacturer. It certainly wasn't hidden away. Very few people can read a software map.

Waxing lyrically about software mapping may sound impressive to those unfamiliar with concept visualisation (ie a complicated looking analysis flow-chart) but its irrelevant to the debate in hand.  In the interests of full disclosure, I fired off a text to a former colleague with whom I meet up with on a regular basis. She's a business analyst specialising in the automotive industry. I asked if Siemens was in any way implicated in the VW diesalgate affair. The short answer is no. What involvement is limited to a subsidiary, Siemens PLM Software, who supplied Bosch a computer modelling programme, LMS Imagine.Lab Amesim, which calculates the dynamic behaviour of components and systems during design stage. It saves on R&D costs. You're right that the software is an industry standard, I've heard of it being used in the aviation industry myself but we are going back nearly two decades ago.

So, now, Sean of Leeds, given that key VW employees are currently eating porridge in the USA and in Korea and returning to my original question, as the former "VW Director of Engineering (who designs engines)" why are you not in jail, or at the very least, contemplating spending the next few Christmases behind bars? Are you a captain of industrial-scale deceit or as we all suspect, someone who has been gilding the lily?

[Penny Farthing]

4 hours ago, Decimus said:

So this tiny corner of the internet is now home to yet another captain of industry.

In residence we have got a multi-million pound property developer, a doctor, an ex-director of engineering at VW and a writer of scientific papers.

If only it wasnt all complete bullshit, we could enter a team on Eggheads.

You forgot me as a former chief railway executive from from the Island of Sodor.

[Guest 'eavensabove]

19 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

Waxing lyrically about software mapping may sound impressive to those unfamiliar with concept visualisation (ie a complicated looking analysis flow-chart) but its irrelevant to the debate in hand.  In the interests of full disclosure, I fired off a text to a former colleague with whom I meet up with on a regular basis. She's a business analyst specialising in the automotive industry. I asked if Siemens was any implicated in the VW diesalgate affair. The short answer is no. What involvement is limited to a subsidiary, Siemens PLM Software, who supplied a computer modelling programme, LMS Imagine.Lab Amesim, which determines the dynamic behaviour of components and systems during design stage. It saves on R&D costs. You're right that the software is an industry standard, I've heard of it being used in the aviation industry myself but we are going back nearly two decades ago.

So, now, Sean of Leeds, given that key VW employees are currently eating porridge in the USA and in Korea and returning to my original question, as the former "VW Director of Engineering (who designs engines)" why are you not in jail, or at the very least, contemplating spending the next few Christmases behind bars? Are you a captain of industrial-scale deceit or as we all suspect, someone who has been gilding the lily?

I like that one, in this instance. 

[Guest Bill Stickers]

2 hours ago, sean5302 said:

No, 5302 relates to the old Leeds dialling code 0532.

I found many Forums wouldn't recognise the first 0 so I wrote as is.

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more interminably boring. How many anoraks do you own?

[Guest 'eavensabove]

14 minutes ago, William T.D. Stickers said:

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more interminably boring. How many anoraks do you own?

I think you'll find that the 0532 is the 1:05pm Stourton  to Tingley express.  He's a Train Spotter. 

 

Edited August 27, 2018 by 'eavensabove

[Penny Farthing]

3 hours ago, sean5302 said:

I spent a lot of time on AV Forum over several years. I got sick and tired of uneducated people asking for my help with their vehicles and then criticising me for using cambelts instead of chains, and that type of thing. I don't set out to annoy or upset anyone. It's they who get annoyed and upset. I recall upsetting one bloke who couldn't find the dipstick on his VW Polo, despite my telling him precisely where and precisely what colour it was.

I advised him to sit behind the steering wheel and he would find the dipstick on the driver's seat.

Did you know that back in the early 1970s VW was in a dire state and was obliged to buy an engine design from none other than British Leyland?

[Decimus]

50 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

Waxing lyrically about software mapping may sound impressive to those unfamiliar with concept visualisation (ie a complicated looking analysis flow-chart) but its irrelevant to the debate in hand.  In the interests of full disclosure, I fired off a text to a former colleague with whom I meet up with on a regular basis. She's a business analyst specialising in the automotive industry. I asked if Siemens was in any way implicated in the VW diesalgate affair. The short answer is no. What involvement is limited to a subsidiary, Siemens PLM Software, who supplied Bosch a computer modelling programme, LMS Imagine.Lab Amesim, which calculates the dynamic behaviour of components and systems during design stage. It saves on R&D costs. You're right that the software is an industry standard, I've heard of it being used in the aviation industry myself but we are going back nearly two decades ago.

So, now, Sean of Leeds, given that key VW employees are currently eating porridge in the USA and in Korea and returning to my original question, as the former "VW Director of Engineering (who designs engines)" why are you not in jail, or at the very least, contemplating spending the next few Christmases behind bars? Are you a captain of industrial-scale deceit or as we all suspect, someone who has been gilding the lily?

Sufuckingperb. I don't think we'll be seeing him again.

[Penny Farthing]

5 minutes ago, Decimus said:

Sufuckingperb. I don't think we'll be seeing him again.

He's a punchbag .. he'll be back.

[Cuntybaws]

From Reuters today: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions-monitor/us-monitor-seeks-more-transparency-from-vw-over-emissions-idUSKCN1LC0R

"Since 2015, Volkswagen has insisted that its diesel cheating was the work of low level executives."

[Bubba C]

19 hours ago, sean5302 said:

Blah, blah, blah.....

If you have moronic politicians still demanding reductions in both and can see a simple software modification to deliver every target, why wouldn't you? We worked with Siemens and satisfied every politician. Just like every other manufacturer. Next they'll ask you to believe that electric vehicles cause no emissions. And you'll accept it, without question.

Still annoyed at lardy.

In your case, Semen. You faggot. 

[Cuntybaws]

39 minutes ago, Bubba C said:

In your case, Semen. You faggot. 

Now, now, Bubba, just because he keeps banging on about tailpipe emissions you mustn't jump to conclusions.

[Guest Bill Stickers]

@sean5302...?

[Decimus]

21 minutes ago, William T.D. Stickers said:

@sean5302...?

Bill, give us a nom, the corner needs it.

[Eric Cuntman]

1 minute ago, Decimus said:

Bill, give us a nom, the corner needs it.

If it's anything to do with Andalusian toilet paper, or ecology grade toilet cisterns not delivering enough water to remove shit from porcelain, I'm not fucking reading it.

[Guest sean5302]

3 hours ago, Mrs Roops said:

 

So, now, Sean of Leeds, given that key VW employees are currently eating porridge in the USA and in Korea and returning to my original question, as the former "VW Director of Engineering (who designs engines)" why are you not in jail, or at the very least, contemplating spending the next few Christmases behind bars? Are you a captain of industrial-scale deceit or as we all suspect, someone who has been gilding the lily?

I can only tell you the facts. I retired as an engineering director. One of many, since this is the world's largest vehicle maker and there are many sites, brands and people. We did not have THE director of engineering. I have no interest in the trials of others, I merely report my own actions, which were to lead a team designing engines to meet customer needs. One of those needs was to pass vehicle homologation requirements in each country of sale. Our vehicles used ECU systems and software in which nothing was hidden and no deviant practices were involved. A sensible program produced acceptable results, especially in the parameters being measured during testing.

If I were still working at the Group, I would do exactly the same again. We helped people with economical, reliable, safe vehicles, exceeding all government testing requirements. If you don't agree, I cannot say I'm all that bothered.