Guest DingTheRioja Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 47 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said: Why is Innes at fault Scotty? Basically him and his firm Stormforce are being charged with negligence because the CPS (or whoever) reckon the boat wasn't inspected enough/properly/on-time and that an inspection would have said the keel was damaged and the boat not seaworthy. Personally I don't think it'll happen looking at that report, there are, IMHO, enough other factors involved to fail on Beyond Reasonable Doubt if the lawyers are good enough twats. There are quite a few areas where the lawyers can legitimately point fingers at other people as contributors to the accident which make the case hard to prosecute well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, DingTheRioja said: Basically him and his firm Stormforce are being charged with negligence because the CPS (or whoever) reckon the boat wasn't inspected enough/properly/on-time and that an inspection would have said the keel was damaged and the boat not seaworthy. Personally I don't think it'll happen looking at that report, there are, IMHO, enough other factors involved to fail on Beyond Reasonable Doubt if the lawyers are good enough twats. There are quite a few areas where the lawyers can legitimately point fingers at other people as contributors to the accident which make the case hard to prosecute well. Don't put money on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DingTheRioja Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, scotty said: Don't put money on it. I'm not, but whether or not the bloke/company is guilty does not necessarily get him found guilty. There are plenty of shitbags living free with good lawyers... To any lawyers out there, I am NOT saying he is guilty or innocent, just looking at the stuff available and the state of the courts these days... you cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camberwell gypsy Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 24 minutes ago, scotty said: I'll tell you after the trial. If you're particularly interested, take a look at the crew details for the race across the Atlantic which they won, and compare them with the details of the crew who tried to sail it back shortly afterwards. I can't say any more than that. The skipper was very young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, DingTheRioja said: I'm not, but whether or not the bloke/company is guilty does not necessarily get him found guilty. There are plenty of shitbags living free with good lawyers... To any lawyers out there, I am NOT saying he is guilty or innocent, just looking at the stuff available and the state of the courts these days... you cunts. The prosecution seem hell bent on nailing this cunt. Like I said, I've got a personal interest in this and was involved in the campaign, but I'll let you know after the trial is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drew P Pissflaps Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Sounds like the sort of vessel where you would have Seaman Staines below deck. Captain Edward John Smith was a cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decimus Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Drew P Pissflaps said: Sounds like the sort of vessel where you would have Seaman Staines below deck. Captain Edward John Smith was a cunt It's still not the gayest ship on the seven seas. Word has it that Captain Drew can always be found vigilantly manning the poop deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Drew P Pissflaps said: Sounds like the sort of vessel where you would have Seaman Staines below deck. Captain Edward John Smith was a cunt How about Roger the cabin boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl of Punkape Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 30 minutes ago, scotty said: How about Roger the cabin boy? Or Swarm the enthusiastic cabin boy.......lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuntybaws Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 @scotty - the cunt's just been acquitted on appeal. Fucking lawyers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lady Penelope Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cuntybaws said: @scotty - the cunt's just been acquitted on appeal. Fucking lawyers! Acquitted after a retrial not an apeal but still guilty of another offence and awaiting sentencing .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40609661 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camberwell gypsy Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 10/9/2016 at 8:06 AM, Miss Penelope said: This wasn't Frank's boat because Frank's boat was unsinkable. So was the Titanic and look what happened to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just heard on the grapevine that now the current trial is done, the RNLI are putting their oar in, so to speak. They are planning to prosecute him, not sure on what charge yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest White van man Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 5:13 PM, scotty said: Just heard on the grapevine that now the current trial is done, the RNLI are putting their oar in, so to speak. They are planning to prosecute him, not sure on what charge yet. Just came across this. Thought i might be of interest to the nom https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-hampshire-44077513#ampshare=http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-44077513 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lady Penelope Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 7:48 AM, White van man said: Just came across this. Thought i might be of interest to the nom https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-hampshire-44077513#ampshare=http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-44077513 He made an odd comment about when the boat had been out of the water for a few months for repainted. When he said that "he would have inspected the boat himself", rather than saying that he did inspect the boat himself and he was also unaware of "damage from previous groundings". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lady Penelope Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 10/10/2016 at 9:23 AM, camberwell gypsy said: The skipper was very young. Yes. The age profile of the crew looks odd. But it does not mean that the 50 somethings were the most experienced crew members. I remember a clerk who took early retirement at 56 so him and his wife could go as cook and sweeper up on a family yacht that was going on a round the world cruise. They set out from Portsmouth and got as far as Plymouth before they realised that the yacht owners would not be safe on Crewe park lake let alone out at sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lady Penelope Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 A quote from their website "Stormforce's team of highly specialised Instructors and Moderators are happy to travel out to yachts and provide bespoke tuition onboard, saving Captains and crews from having to leave the boat." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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