Euronazi cry babies

[Roadkill]

Just now, DingTheRioja said:

You forgot the misogynist cunts.

The members are the misogynist cunts. You mean I forgot to put women, but what do they have to do with civilized debate, anyway? Fucking Kitchen Dwellers.

[Guest DingTheRioja]

2 minutes ago, Roadkill said:

The members are the misogynist cunts. You mean I forgot to put women, but what do they have to do with civilized debate, anyway? Fucking Kitchen Dwellers.

You're on your fucking own mate... I'm not defending you....

[camberwell gypsy]

3 hours ago, Manky said:

Europe can keep Norfolk. Its no fucking use to us.

It keeps the wind off of Suffolk. 

[Guest Snatch]

Fucking hell,another thread about Brexit. Wait until the UK is 100% out and then comment on it. If and when it does happen it is so far in the future this site will probably be so PC that none of us cunts we'll be here except Rick.

[Decimus]

8 hours ago, Fender777 said:

Are you a European D ?

Yes.

[Decimus]

Those Naziesque, British hating Eurocrats have only gone and done it again!

They've brought in new tariffs against shite, Chinese steel that crumbles as soon as you look at it, adding extra protection for quality made, British steel. The British government, which clearly loves the manual labouring idiots who voted to leave, has demonstrated its affection by predictably lambasting the idea. A statement on behalf of the P.M. states that "We don't think it is a decision that reflects a free and open approach to trade."

So there you have it leave voters, you know what to expect once we are out. Taking back your country? Do me a fucking favour. The government will sell out workers at a drop of a hat in favour of cheap, Chinese shit, and there will be no E.U. to stop them. Never mind, eh? Enjoy your brave new world.

Idiots.

[Guest nobgobbler]

8 hours ago, Roadkill said:

The members are the misogynist cunts. You mean I forgot to put women, but what do they have to do with civilized debate, anyway? Fucking Kitchen Dwellers.

You can make your own dinner from now on you little cunt.

[camberwell gypsy]

17 minutes ago, nobgobbler said:

You can make your own dinner from now on you little cunt.

Don't be stupid. He'd fuck up a pot noodle.  

[Guest Lady Penelope]

2 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

Don't be stupid. He'd fuck up a pot noodle.  

He is a pot noodle.

[Guest nobgobbler]

2 hours ago, Lady Penelope said:

He is a pot noodle.

And we all know what cunts they are!

[Mrs Roops]

3 hours ago, Decimus said:

Those Naziesque, British hating Eurocrats have only gone and done it again!

They've brought in new tariffs against shite, Chinese steel that crumbles as soon as you look at it, adding extra protection for quality made, British steel. The British government, which clearly loves the manual labouring idiots who voted to leave, has demonstrated its affection by predictably lambasting the idea. A statement on behalf of the P.M. states that "We don't think it is a decision that reflects a free and open approach to trade."

So there you have it leave voters, you know what to expect once we are out. Taking back your country? Do me a fucking favour. The government will sell out workers at a drop of a hat in favour of cheap, Chinese shit, and there will be no E.U. to stop them. Never mind, eh? Enjoy your brave new world.

Idiots.

This is a bureaucrat's assessment, beloved by Brussels and assorted government administrators, known for only thinking in straight lines, the consequence of which is complex rule-setting, intervention, tariffs and if all else fails, throwing tax-payer's money at a problem.

Firstly, Chinese roll and heavy plate steel does not "crumble as soon as you look at it". Now, the EU will impose tariffs of 75% on imported Chinese steel but will wonder why China will apply up to 265% tariffs on manufactured goods from Europe. Britain, along with Holland and the Scandinavian governments opposed the tariff as they have realised that domestic steel makers are now concentrating on specialist steels and alloys (using cheep steel as a raw material - now no longer available) as well as carbon and composite materials. They are also aware that the value of manufactured exported goods is far higher than imported Chinese steel.

Something else you may wish to consider; The UK by being seen to oppose steel tariffs (knowing that the Brits would be overruled by the Eurocrats) will have earned considerable brownie points once the country is free from the Euro-shackle and will be better positioned to negotiate a tariff free trade deal with China making the UK exports much cheaper than its European competitors.

Look at the bigger picture...

[Guest Lady Penelope]

We also have all sorts of bonkers EU rules pushing infrastructure costs to out of control levels. Thw Great Western railway electrification being an example where because of rules that are more relevant to France mean that the overhead power structures and supports are far heavier than actually required.

 

[Guest Lady Penelope]

We also do not have a land border with any mainland European Country. I could for example walk from Torquay to Exeter in an afternoon. However if I tried to walk the slightly shorter distance from Dover to Calais I would quickly get salt water up my nose.

 

[Guest Lady Penelope]

12 hours ago, Roadkill said:

You mean I forgot to put women, but what do they have to do with civilized debate, anyway? Fucking Kitchen Dwellers.

I think that you will face divine punishment.

[Roadkill]

Just now, Lady Penelope said:

I think that you will face divine punishment.

Most likely. Especially after my next picture is published... Sorry Cuntybaws... you're in it.

[Decimus]

47 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

This is a bureaucrat's assessment, beloved by Brussels and assorted government administrators, known for only thinking in straight lines, the consequence of which is complex rule-setting, intervention, tariffs and if all else fails, throwing tax-payer's money at a problem.

Firstly, Chinese roll and heavy plate steel does not "crumble as soon as you look at it". Now, the EU will impose tariffs of 75% on imported Chinese steel but will wonder why China will apply up to 265% tariffs on manufactured goods from Europe. Britain, along with Holland and the Scandinavian governments opposed the tariff as they have realised that domestic steel makers are now concentrating on specialist steels and alloys (using cheep steel as a raw material - now no longer available) as well as carbon and composite materials. They are also aware that the value of manufactured exported goods is far higher than imported Chinese steel.

Something else you may wish to consider; The UK by being seen to oppose steel tariffs (knowing that the Brits would be overruled by the Eurocrats) will have earned considerable brownie points once the country is free from the Euro-shackle and will be better positioned to negotiate a tariff free trade deal with China making the UK exports much cheaper than its European competitors.

Look at the bigger picture...

First of all, the type of Chinese steel that is used to reinforce concrete, is of an incredibly low standard, and actually poses a significant health and safety risk. I haven't plucked this information out of thin air, or mined google for biased reports to back up my claims, I don't need to because it is a fact. My father-in-law is a welder, and within his profession it is well known that inclusions in Chinese steel rebar, mainly Boron, significantly increases the risk of a weld cracking.

As for the British steel industry concentrating on specialist steel and alloys, they have not got much choice in going down a more specialist route, as standard Chinese steel flooding the market doesn't make it easy for them to compete in less specialist production. Whether the value of the subsequent manufactured goods is higher than imported Chinese goods I can't say, but I'll take your word for it. But what I can say is that if Chinese steel was subjected to a much higher tariff, British steel would be able to compete more effectively and further increase the value of our exports. Will the Chinese then increase their tariffs in response? Maybe, but by working with the E.U., and the new American administration we can force the Chinese to the negotiating table. They are an economy driven by exports, and the western world in theory has the ability to cripple its economy if it so wishes.

What can the U.K. do on it's own? From the government's perspective, and from yours, they wish to keep the status quo and make it easier to trade with the Chinese by opposing restrictive tariffs. That's fine and adheres to free market principles, but is it better or worse in the long run for British manufacturing and jobs? If Brexit is about taking back control from Europe, is it now also about whoring ourselves to China and the rest of the world to keep our economy afloat at the expense of British jobs?

I've looked at the bigger picture, and I say that it's better the devil you know, and within 15 years people will realise we were better off in the E.U. all along.

[camberwell gypsy]

51 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

This is a bureaucrat's assessment, beloved by Brussels and assorted government administrators, known for only thinking in straight lines, the consequence of which is complex rule-setting, intervention, tariffs and if all else fails, throwing tax-payer's money at a problem.

Firstly, Chinese roll and heavy plate steel does not "crumble as soon as you look at it". Now, the EU will impose tariffs of 75% on imported Chinese steel but will wonder why China will apply up to 265% tariffs on manufactured goods from Europe. Britain, along with Holland and the Scandinavian governments opposed the tariff as they have realised that domestic steel makers are now concentrating on specialist steels and alloys (using cheep steel as a raw material - now no longer available) as well as carbon and composite materials. They are also aware that the value of manufactured exported goods is far higher than imported Chinese steel.

Something else you may wish to consider; The UK by being seen to oppose steel tariffs (knowing that the Brits would be overruled by the Eurocrats) will have earned considerable brownie points once the country is free from the Euro-shackle and will be better positioned to negotiate a tariff free trade deal with China making the UK exports much cheaper than its European competitors.

Look at the bigger picture...

Yeah Decs! What she said! And that 

[The Beast]

4 hours ago, Decimus said:

Those Naziesque, British hating Eurocrats have only gone and done it again!

They've brought in new tariffs against shite, Chinese steel that crumbles as soon as you look at it, adding extra protection for quality made, British steel. The British government, which clearly loves the manual labouring idiots who voted to leave, has demonstrated its affection by predictably lambasting the idea. A statement on behalf of the P.M. states that "We don't think it is a decision that reflects a free and open approach to trade."

So there you have it leave voters, you know what to expect once we are out. Taking back your country? Do me a fucking favour. The government will sell out workers at a drop of a hat in favour of cheap, Chinese shit, and there will be no E.U. to stop them. Never mind, eh? Enjoy your brave new world.

Idiots.

I don't know much about steel, other than what is left of the industry in UK plc is owned by Indians. Pretty much like everything else in this country since Thatcherism, sold to overseas interests as is was seen as a liability.  

I do recall John Major's government opting out of the social chapter EU legislation. Part of this was the minimum wage directive.

The sooner we rid ourselves of this club that is intransigent to change, the better we can direct our ire to the sacks of shit of all political persuasions in Westminster. 

[ratcum]

1 minute ago, Decimus said:

First of all, the type of Chinese steel that is used to reinforce concrete, is of an incredibly low standard, and actually poses a significant health and safety risk. I haven't plucked this information out of thin air, or mined google for biased reports to back up my claims, I don't need to because it is a fact. My father-in-law is a welder, and within his profession it is well known that inclusions in Chinese steel rebar, mainly Boron, significantly increases the risk of a weld cracking.

As for the British steel industry concentrating on specialist steel and alloys, they have not got much choice in going down a more specialist route, as standard Chinese steel flooding the market doesn't make it easy for them to compete in less specialist production. Whether the value of the subsequent manufactured goods is higher than imported Chinese goods I can't say, but I'll take your word for it. But what I can say is that if Chinese steel was subjected to a much higher tariff, British steel would be able to compete more effectively and further increase the value of our exports. Will the Chinese then increase their tariffs in response? Maybe, but by working with the E.U., and the new American administration we can force the Chinese to the negotiating table. They are an economy driven by exports, and the western world in theory has the ability to cripple its economy if it so wishes.

What can the U.K. on it's own do? From the government's perspective, and from yours, they wish to keep the status quo and make it easier to trade with the Chinese by opposing restrictive tariffs. That's fine and adheres to free market principles, but is it better or worse in the long run for British manufacturing and jobs? If Brexit is about taking back control from Europe, is it now also about whoring ourselves to China and the rest of the world to keep our economy afloat at the expense of British jobs?

I've looked at the bigger picture, and I say that it's better the devil you know, and within 15 years people will realise we were better off in the E.U. all along.

I'm 100% EU and want a United States of Europe as it would be a far more culturally sophisticated than America or China. We have better brains and a sounder world view than the aforementioned goons, and don't have the burning desire to police entire planet. Britain however, much to my shame, is too immature as a society to cope with the levels of cooperation that this would require. We'll never be able to cope with immigration until we stop regarding it as such

[ratcum]

9 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

Yeah Decs! What she said! And that 

Ditto. Not Beth Ditto

[Guest Lady Penelope]

12 minutes ago, The Beast said:

I don't know much about steel, other than what is left of the industry in UK plc is owned by Indians. Pretty much like everything else in this country since Thatcherism, sold to overseas interests as is was seen as a liability.  

I do recall John Major's government opting out of the social chapter EU legislation. Part of this was the minimum wage directive.

The sooner we rid ourselves of this club that is intransigent to change, the better we can direct our ire to the sacks of shit of all political persuasions in Westminster. 

The problem will always be that stretch of water between us and the European mainland. It is similar to that issue of water between th UK and Ireland .. yes we can cooperate but no we can never be an intergeral part of it as the issue of Ireland and the UK has proved over a long period of time. If you want to be that integeral part of what is the EU then you need to move yourself over there.

[Roadkill]

45 minutes ago, Lady Penelope said:

I think that you will face divine punishment.

See?

[Decimus]

11 minutes ago, ratcum said:

I'm 100% EU and want a United States of Europe as it would be a far more culturally sophisticated than America or China. We have better brains and a sounder world view than the aforementioned goons, and don't have the burning desire to police entire planet. Britain however, much to my shame, is too immature as a society to cope with the levels of cooperation that this would require. We'll never be able to cope with immigration until we stop regarding it as such

Agreed. I'm not just pro-E.U., I would also back a federal United States of Europe, and truly believe that it would be the greatest sovereign state that has ever existed. Maybe one day we will abandon the parochial, insular attitudes that are prevalent in this country and embrace a diverse, united Europe. 

[ratcum]

15 minutes ago, ratcum said:

I'm 100% EU and want a United States of Europe as it would be a far more culturally sophisticated than America or China. We have better brains and a sounder world view than the aforementioned goons, and don't have the burning desire to police entire planet. Britain however, much to my shame, is too immature as a society to cope with the levels of cooperation that this would require. We'll never be able to cope with immigration until we stop regarding it as such

We built better gas chambers too

[ratcum]

3 minutes ago, Decimus said:

Agreed. I'm not just pro-E.U., I would also back a federal United States of Europe, and truly believe that it would be the greatest sovereign state that has ever existed. Maybe one day we will abandon the parochial, insular attitudes that are prevalent in this country and embrace a diverse, united Europe. 

We could also invade Africa, properly this time, hoover up all their resources and kill the begging bastards. Hussar! Happy days are here again Deco. Strike up the band!