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7 hours ago, Monumental cunt said:

Digital has replaced analogue simply so they can see what you are watching.  They can now know what everyone is watching down to the last number of people watching Bill Oddies bird shit programme on BBC 4 at 2.45 am.

ive heard that there is a bit of a resurgence in old phones coming back, to stop hacking.   Apparently analogue phones are way more secure.

as for digital tv.  Well is tv really a thing these days.   I watch you tube on my tv more than BBC.   Porn is readily available for people like Bill Sticker to pollute themselves more frequently.  So it’s not all bad.   Stops him raping boys now by constantly allowing him to knock one out to niche porn on his tv.

Nonsense, digital TV transmission was introduced because four to five digital channels could fit in a bandwidth spread that could only accommodate one VHF/UHF channel. Digital transmission also gave a sharper picture and sound quality. Digital phones are more secure than analogues as the signal can be encrypted. As Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles found out, conversations over an analogue service can be listened to with the aid of a radio scanner.

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8 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

Nonsense, digital TV transmission was introduced because four to five digital channels could fit in a bandwidth spread that could only accommodate one VHF/UHF channel. Digital transmission also gave a sharper picture and sound quality. Digital phones are more secure than analogues as the signal can be encrypted. As Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles found out, conversations over an analogue service can be listened to with the aid of a radio scanner.

I know someone who moved from Eddie Shoestring type private investigation work to using scanners back in the early 1980s .. first to eavesdrop on CB radio conversations and then later moved  onto analogue phone conversations to keep track WAGS of the wealthy. He made a lot money that way (along with quite a few enemies).

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2 hours ago, Mrs Roops said:

Digital phones are more secure than analogues as the signal can be encrypted. As Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles found out, conversations over an analogue service can be listened to with the aid of a radio scanner.

Phreaking on analogue was a relative breeze, although hijacking a digital handset on an insecure wifi connection is hardly impossible if you have the right tools. Both are generally low volume and localised activities.

What "state sponsored actors" can do with back door access to digital communications is frighteningly industrial in scale.

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13 hours ago, Monumental cunt said:

Digital has replaced analogue simply so they can see what you are watching.  They can now know what everyone is watching down to the last number of people watching Bill Oddies bird shit programme on BBC 4 at 2.45 am.

ive heard that there is a bit of a resurgence in old phones coming back, to stop hacking.   Apparently analogue phones are way more secure.

as for digital tv.  Well is tv really a thing these days.   I watch you tube on my tv more than BBC.   Porn is readily available for people like Bill Sticker to pollute themselves more frequently.  So it’s not all bad.   Stops him raping boys now by constantly allowing him to knock one out to niche porn on his tv.

Are you sure its not the other way round?

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12 hours ago, Mrs Roops said:

Nonsense, digital TV transmission was introduced because four to five digital channels could fit in a bandwidth spread that could only accommodate one VHF/UHF channel. Digital transmission also gave a sharper picture and sound quality. Digital phones are more secure than analogues as the signal can be encrypted. As Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles found out, conversations over an analogue service can be listened to with the aid of a radio scanner.

Nonsense, digital was introduced so the man can know exactly what we are watching and monitor all our communications.  Analogue is far superior product, particularly in high end hifi record players than the sampling rate of any digital device.  I’ve got a Linn Axis deck and amp to play my records on that shits on any digital device.   Digital phones a notoriously easy to hack as the news of the world showed.   A landline analogue phone is way more secure.....watch the gang theft film Heat, about twenty years ago, it was known back then that land line analogue is way more secure than digital.  A fact lost on the digital generation who are possibly asking grandad what’s a record player???    I take the point on band width having more capacity, but that is not the issue in debate here.  The issue is security.   Analogue is not perfect, granted, but it’s way more secure on a land line than bouncing a digital signal all over the globe.   Al quida will tell you they do not use mobile phones for many security reasons including location detection, message interception, and reverse use of a phone as a recorder of any conversation in its vicinity whether it’s switched on or not. They can switch them on remotely. They can also run analysis of calls made and received to get a linked web of the users contacts.  Excellent in piecing together members of a group or active cell.   As the head of MI5 in one of your many expert roles, along with planning lawyer, treasury accountant to the Bank of England, MP, joint Chief of Staff, Queen, and Swindon Honda exhaust fitter on the production line,   I find your knowledge on this subject severely lacking “M”.   Any machine that leaves a digital footprint is a cunt compared to an old analogue version of the same thing.

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11 hours ago, Monumental cunt said:

Nonsense, digital was introduced so the man can know exactly what we are watching and monitor all our communications.  Analogue is far superior product, particularly in high end hifi record players than the sampling rate of any digital device.  I’ve got a Linn Axis deck and amp to play my records on that shits on any digital device.   Digital phones a notoriously easy to hack as the news of the world showed.   A landline analogue phone is way more secure.....watch the gang theft film Heat, about twenty years ago, it was known back then that land line analogue is way more secure than digital.  A fact lost on the digital generation who are possibly asking grandad what’s a record player???    I take the point on band width having more capacity, but that is not the issue in debate here.  The issue is security.   Analogue is not perfect, granted, but it’s way more secure on a land line than bouncing a digital signal all over the globe.   Al quida will tell you they do not use mobile phones for many security reasons including location detection, message interception, and reverse use of a phone as a recorder of any conversation in its vicinity whether it’s switched on or not. They can switch them on remotely. They can also run analysis of calls made and received to get a linked web of the users contacts.  Excellent in piecing together members of a group or active cell.   As the head of MI5 in one of your many expert roles, along with planning lawyer, treasury accountant to the Bank of England, MP, joint Chief of Staff, Queen, and Swindon Honda exhaust fitter on the production line,   I find your knowledge on this subject severely lacking “M”.   Any machine that leaves a digital footprint is a cunt compared to an old analogue version of the same thing.

Ah yes, naturally you own a notoriously expensive Hi-Fi sound system... You may have heard of noted Hi-Fi critic Ken Kessler; perhaps you read some of his articles in the Daily Telegraph, so it is with some irony that he accused Linn's founder of, "historical revisionism and other ways of interpreting reality". Perhaps you were not aware that Linn was one of the earliest Hi-Fi manufacturers to incorporate digital technology into its sound systems? Be that as it may, my dad and hubby are Hi-Fi bores, often found banging on about richness of sound compared to sublime mellowness when comparing pick-up cartridges, though I am grateful to my dad for my discovering a love for classical and contemporary choral music. Vinyl does indeed give a better fidelity of sound compared to CD's or digital down load but that is due to the storage medium rather than anything else.

As for security of analogue versus digital, one does not have to be "M" (maybe you meant "Q") to realise two analogue 'phones connected by cable presents far greater opportunity for tampering than encrypted digital. In the old days GPO telephone operators could, and did, freely listen in at will. In any case, this is all rather moot as more than 95% of telephone exchanges are now digital. You are correct that Al Qaeda are wary of using 'phones, both analogue and digital, but if you recall, the state sponsored execution of Bin Laden came about through the shadowing on one of his couriers. As for red-top newspapers intercepting voice mail, this was remarkably low tech. Personal voice mails was relatively new and subscribers were not so security conscious as they are now. News reporters and enquiry agents simply dialled the victim's number and if the person was out would be met with an ansaphone message. Simply by pressing industry standard default PIN's or even just the * key they were often presented with a voicemail menu.

This all makes a nonsense that analogue is more secure that digital communication and that digital TV was part of a grand conspiracy by the state to monitor the peoples viewing habits and spy on them. Rather like the vaxing conspiracy, too many people would have to be on the act. The introduction of digital TV transmission was consumer demand led.

 

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9 minutes ago, Mrs Roops said:

This all makes a nonsense that analogue is more secure that digital communication and that digital TV was part of a grand conspiracy by the state to monitor the peoples viewing habits and spy on them. Rather like the vaxing conspiracy, too many people would have to be on the act. The introduction of digital TV transmission was consumer demand led.

This takes me back to the days when little old ladies thought that Robert Dougall was looking at them through their 14" black & white Sobell telly.

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11 hours ago, Mrs Roops said:

Ah yes, naturally you own a notoriously expensive Hi-Fi sound system... You may have heard of noted Hi-Fi critic Ken Kessler; perhaps you read some of his articles in the Daily Telegraph, so it is with some irony that he accused Linn's founder of, "historical revisionism and other ways of interpreting reality". Perhaps you were not aware that Linn was one of the earliest Hi-Fi manufacturers to incorporate digital technology into its sound systems? Be that as it may, my dad and hubby are Hi-Fi bores, often found banging on about richness of sound compared to sublime mellowness when comparing pick-up cartridges, though I am grateful to my dad for my discovering a love for classical and contemporary choral music. Vinyl does indeed give a better fidelity of sound compared to CD's or digital down load but that is due to the storage medium rather than anything else.

As for security of analogue versus digital, one does not have to be "M" (maybe you meant "Q") to realise two analogue 'phones connected by cable presents far greater opportunity for tampering than encrypted digital. In the old days GPO telephone operators could, and did, freely listen in at will. In any case, this is all rather moot as more than 95% of telephone exchanges are now digital. You are correct that Al Qaeda are wary of using 'phones, both analogue and digital, but if you recall, the state sponsored execution of Bin Laden came about through the shadowing on one of his couriers. As for red-top newspapers intercepting voice mail, this was remarkably low tech. Personal voice mails was relatively new and subscribers were not so security conscious as they are now. News reporters and enquiry agents simply dialled the victim's number and if the person was out would be met with an ansaphone message. Simply by pressing industry standard default PIN's or even just the * key they were often presented with a voicemail menu.

This all makes a nonsense that analogue is more secure that digital communication and that digital TV was part of a grand conspiracy by the state to monitor the peoples viewing habits and spy on them. Rather like the vaxing conspiracy, too many people would have to be on the act. The introduction of digital TV transmission was consumer demand led.

 

You take my point though that records on a high end device are superior to digital.  You astound me that you are a Choral music lover.  Iam deeply into the work of Sir John Tavener at the moment.  In particular Song for Athene.    Delightfully deep moving piece when played on the Linn.

Digital phones can be listened to and monitored by word search machines listening for phrases.  Analogue, as you point out have to be listened to by humans or hard wired to a recording device, that is hard wired to a land line. So by definition are more secure to tapping than digital airborne signals.

definately “M” as a hardened crust old maid, rather than “Q” a bright spotty young man.  Iam not wrong.

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12 hours ago, Monumental cunt said:

You take my point though that records on a high end device are superior to digital.  You astound me that you are a Choral music lover.  Iam deeply into the work of Sir John Tavener at the moment.  In particular Song for Athene.    Delightfully deep moving piece when played on the Linn.

Digital phones can be listened to and monitored by word search machines listening for phrases.  Analogue, as you point out have to be listened to by humans or hard wired to a recording device, that is hard wired to a land line. So by definition are more secure to tapping than digital airborne signals.

definately “M” as a hardened crust old maid, rather than “Q” a bright spotty young man.  Iam not wrong.

I did not say that. It matters not if the intercepted signal is analogue or digital. Conversations transnitted via analogue are not encrypted and are easier to tamper with.

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12 hours ago, Monumental cunt said:

You take my point though that records on a high end device are superior to digital.  You astound me that you are a Choral music lover.  Iam deeply into the work of Sir John Tavener at the moment.  In particular Song for Athene.    Delightfully deep moving piece when played on the Linn.

Digital phones can be listened to and monitored by word search machines listening for phrases.  Analogue, as you point out have to be listened to by humans or hard wired to a recording device, that is hard wired to a land line. So by definition are more secure to tapping than digital airborne signals.

definately “M” as a hardened crust old maid, rather than “Q” a bright spotty young man.  Iam not wrong.

GCHQ have been developing speech scanners since decent digital to analogue converters came in the late 1980s. Analogue signals can be scanned by digital devices with dac converters, how do you think Siri, alexa and other speech recognition works?

For your main conspiracy theory about the shift to digital purely being for nefarious purposes I offer you this -

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I remember the Queen saying the Royal Rediffusion had gone on the blink, so the repairman was summoned.

"No Ma'am, we can't get the valves anymore, we'll have to replace the set."

They installed a 50 inch Pioneer plasma and the repairman was showing the Queen the remote control.

"If you're on BBC1 and you want ITV, you just push button 3, Ma'am".

"Oh no", she said. "One has a bell for that. Ring it and a little man appears".

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1 hour ago, sean5302 said:

I remember the Queen saying the Royal Rediffusion had gone on the blink, so the repairman was summoned.

"No Ma'am, we can't get the valves anymore, we'll have to replace the set."

They installed a 50 inch Pioneer plasma and the repairman was showing the Queen the remote control.

"If you're on BBC1 and you want ITV, you just push button 3, Ma'am".

"Oh no", she said. "One has a bell for that. Ring it and a little man appears".

Did anyone order a new resident spazmo?

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4 hours ago, sean5302 said:

I remember the Queen saying the Royal Rediffusion had gone on the blink, so the repairman was summoned.

"No Ma'am, we can't get the valves anymore, we'll have to replace the set."

They installed a 50 inch Pioneer plasma and the repairman was showing the Queen the remote control.

"If you're on BBC1 and you want ITV, you just push button 3, Ma'am".

"Oh no", she said. "One has a bell for that. Ring it and a little man appears".

You fucking stupid cunt. 

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13 hours ago, Wybunbury Bertie said:

@Monumental cunt never ever switch your television off. If you switch your television on you can watch it .. its when you turn your television off that it watches you.

All digital tv actually do watch you.  They provide exact data to tv companies on how many people watch each programme.  So yes it is watching what you are watching affectively.

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13 hours ago, Noakes the navigator said:

GCHQ have been developing speech scanners since decent digital to analogue converters came in the late 1980s. Analogue signals can be scanned by digital devices with dac converters, how do you think Siri, alexa and other speech recognition works?

For your main conspiracy theory about the shift to digital purely being for nefarious purposes I offer you this -

Tin_foil_hat_2.jpg.04d04e117161a040e097c5f22255dbe9.jpg 

I agree technologies have been around in the latter analogue years that could do what you say.  But in you discussion you say exactly what Iam saying.....they have been developing digital equipment to scan voice.   So you are saying digital is the problem.....you fucking prick.   Have a word with yourself...and make it....cunt.

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13 hours ago, Mrs Roops said:

I did not say that. It matters not if the intercepted signal is analogue or digital. Conversations transnitted via analogue are not encrypted and are easier to tamper with.

Not if on a land line analogue versus a digital satellite signal bounced around the world.  The analogue land line is way more secure.  Think about it.   Now have a word with yourself... and make it......cunt. 

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