Gosport Hospital

[Eric Cuntman]

9 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

I bought a canoe from there.

Is it your getaway boat?

[Guest 'eavensabove]

18 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

I bought a canoe from there.

Birch Bark?

[Guest 'eavensabove]

2 minutes ago, Stubby Pecker said:

 

She paddles them from 'the back of a lorry' at the Epsom Derby.  

[Wolfie]

3 hours ago, White Cunt said:

For my own life extension treatment, I chose the Swiss option.

Jesus wept. Please say something engaging, funny or offensive. Each time you post I skim-read it – presuming it will be utterly shit – before wasting my time to re-read it to see whether I've missed something subtly intelligent. Not so. While you still have much catching up to do, you'll be poaching Pansy's Most Boring mantle before long. 

 

[Wolfie]

8 hours ago, Cuntybaws said:

That’s interesting. I recently lost a previously fit and healthy elderly relative to a stroke – it didn't carry them off, per se, but it was pretty obvious there was no-one home any more. After just a few days the medical staff advised that the best thing to do was stop feeding and treatment and let nature take its course, although that course might last a week or more. (There was no life support machine – it’s not like they just unplugged something and that was that.)

I don’t disagree with their judgement, and I don’t think they did anything to actively hasten the end, but I was surprised to see an option like that presented so soon and then implemented as if it was routine.

Having seen the slack-jawed, drooling residents of the average residential care home propped up around the TV with Jeremy Kyle on permanent loop, I’d be quite happy if some cunt gave me a shitload of morphine and then set me on fire rather than putting me in one of those when my own time comes.

What are your thoughts, Pen?

[Guest 'eavensabove]

30 minutes ago, Wolfie said:

Jesus wept. Please say something engaging, funny or offensive. Each time you post I skim-read it – presuming it will be utterly shit – before wasting my time to re-read it to see whether I've missed something subtly intelligent. Not so. While you still have much catching up to do, you'll be poaching Pansy's Most Boring mantle before long. 

 

We all know the feeling. 😉

Edited July 28, 2018 by 'eavensabove
woofie

[camberwell gypsy]

2 hours ago, Stubby Pecker said:

 

Reported for............fuck it. Just reported. 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

My 99 years old Mother-in-law's Funeral Insurance, is much the same as her hospital gown. She thinks that She's covered.  

[Guest Jack Mioff]

11 hours ago, The Beast said:

I don't know about the competence of the masculine appearing quack who prescribed the end of life analgesics, but to single out one person is a bit short sighted. Some other cunts had to serve it up and pretty much on a frequent basis looking at the number of punters that copped it.

Of course the media will wank themselves silly over comparisons to Harold Shipman, but they don't appear to have any comprehension of the real issue...…. how we treat older people with failing health and poor quality of life. The inept politicians won't touch this subject either.

From personal experience, when I first started nursing 28 years ago, it was commonplace to commence a subcutaneous infusion of diamorphine, maxalon and hyoscine to hasten the end of the individual. However, since the big nosed legal know-alls have started sticking their spoke in, this is now not an option. It is always treatment as the first option, so much so that the average hospital physician is either unwilling or unable to identify when someone is actually dying. The only people who still offer some dignity and a peaceful death are palliative care teams. Sadly their resources are finite and many older people end life still being treated to the maximum, with a do not resuscitate order in place.

 

It does seem nonsensical that as a society we are okay with putting an old or sick pet down seeing it as a kindness( which it is) and yet many find the idea of extending the same dignity to people as something to be condemned. 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

7 minutes ago, Jack Mioff said:

It does seem nonsensical that as a society we are okay with putting an old or sick pet down seeing it as a kindness( which it is) and yet many find the idea of extending the same dignity to people as something to be condemned. 

It's so very true, particularly if your wife's an old dog.

Edited July 28, 2018 by 'eavensabove
Reaso fo edi .

[Guest Jack Mioff]

Not managed to find an excuse to put her down........yet

[Guest 'eavensabove]

3 minutes ago, Jack Mioff said:

Not managed to find an excuse to put her down........yet

There's no need for a reason, if She's nothing but  pain. 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

13 minutes ago, Jack Mioff said:

It does seem nonsensical that as a society we are okay with putting an old or sick pet down seeing it as a kindness( which it is) and yet many find the idea of extending the same dignity to people as something to be condemned. 

You may be onto something here. Muslinz are animals, right!  Can you see where I'm at.

[Guest Jack Mioff]

Some but I think social media “stars” would be my first choice for re education and/or use for fine tuning the cc wood chipper the absolute bunch of oxygen stealing cunts. 

[Penny Farthing]

2 hours ago, Wolfie said:

What are your thoughts, Pen?

You should go for it Wulfie

[Guest 'eavensabove]

11 minutes ago, Slippers said:

You should go for it Wulfie

She's far too young for him.

[The Beast]

14 hours ago, Cuntybaws said:

That’s interesting. I recently lost a previously fit and healthy elderly relative to a stroke – it didn't carry them off, per se, but it was pretty obvious there was no-one home any more. After just a few days the medical staff advised that the best thing to do was stop feeding and treatment and let nature take its course, although that course might last a week or more. (There was no life support machine – it’s not like they just unplugged something and that was that.)

I don’t disagree with their judgement, and I don’t think they did anything to actively hasten the end, but I was surprised to see an option like that presented so soon and then implemented as if it was routine.

Having seen the slack-jawed, drooling residents of the average residential care home propped up around the TV with Jeremy Kyle on permanent loop, I’d be quite happy if some cunt gave me a shitload of morphine and then set me on fire rather than putting me in one of those when my own time comes.

Stroke care has advanced significantly in UK plc the past 10 years. I'm sure this decision would have been made by a stroke specialist who understood the prognosis of your relative. Sounds like they stopped intervening and followed their end of life care policy.  

[The Beast]

12 hours ago, Punkape said:

Most male nurses are sausage jockeys.

I bet you’re a Cumberland fan.

Lol.

Go on, admit it...….I bet you love all that business. I never would have guessed. 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

10 hours ago, The Beast said:

Stroke care has advanced significantly in UK plc the past 10 years. I'm sure this decision would have been made by a stroke specialist who understood the prognosis of your relative. Sounds like they stopped intervening and followed their end of life care policy.  

You've obviously been talking to Neil, during this research.

[scotty]

8 minutes ago, 'eavensabove said:

You've obviously been talking to Neil, during this research.

I was thinking that proper's post would be funnier if you prefixed each "stroke" with "vinegar". 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

11 minutes ago, scotty said:

I was thinking that proper's post would be funnier if you prefixed "stroke" with "vinegar". 

Ha! You're probably correct...

Vinegar is supposedly renowned for: Eliminating odours from a fridge;  Removing dirty stains from cups & mugs:  Curing all sorts of ailments/Housemaids Knee, and various other cottage-crafts etc.

I Dunno about wanking though... Oh, hang on: It cures Tennis Elbow AND Wankers Wrist.

(Chpt 1.  Delia Smiths DIY Healthcare Vol 3)    

[Cuntybaws]

12 hours ago, The Beast said:

Stroke care has advanced significantly in UK plc the past 10 years. I'm sure this decision would have been made by a stroke specialist who understood the prognosis of your relative. Sounds like they stopped intervening and followed their end of life care policy.  

If "followed their end of life care policy" means "classified ANH as a medical intervention and withdrew same, allowing patient to die of starvation over a period of 11-12 days" then, yes, they followed it all right. As I said earlier, I have no quarrel with that decision, but not all relatives - nor, I suspect, all medical staff - will agree that there is no distinction.

Policy has made large strides of late, to so blatantly permit death through inaction. To allow the next logical step of actively hastening death will be a much harder battle, even though it is effectively the same decision.

[Guest 'eavensabove]

50 minutes ago, Cuntybaws said:

If "followed their end of life care policy" means "classified ANH as a medical intervention and withdrew same, allowing patient to die of starvation over a period of 11-12 days" then, yes, they followed it all right. As I said earlier, I have no quarrel with that decision, but not all relatives - nor, I suspect, all medical staff - will agree that there is no distinction.

Policy has made large strides of late, to so blatantly permit death through inaction. To allow the next logical step of actively hastening death will be a much harder battle, even though it is effectively the same decision.

Hospital care policy as such, (unless you're in  ITU) seems to be based upon more or less the same procedures for most hospitalised patients:  Catheters are standard if you cannot piss or shit without soiling the bed; Left or Right hand (depending which side of the bed you have a drip-stand) is needled with a permanently taped down intravenous wotzit: All meals or drinks (if able to eat) are regimentally served; Nurses, come and go,  notes are looked-at and discussed when/if a 'proper' Dr does a ward-round; Catching other infections whilst bed-ridden in hospital is more or less guaranteed, and finally, next of kin are shown The Chapel of Rest...

I can categorically state, from personal experience, that any relative of mine that has ended up in hospital during old age(?) for whatever, (say 68years+) have died in hospital. Not one, has ever returned to their home, and I very much doubt that I am alone with this.   

Edited July 29, 2018 by 'eavensabove
Gosh Port.

[Last Cunt Standing]

1 hour ago, 'eavensabove said:

Hospital care policy as such, (unless you're in  ITU) seems to be based upon more or less the same procedures for most hospitalised patients:  Catheters are standard if you cannot piss or shit without soiling the bed; Left or Right hand (depending which side of the bed you have a drip-stand) is needled with a permanently taped down intravenous wotzit: All meals or drinks (if able to eat) are regimentally served; Nurses, come and go,  notes are looked-at and discussed when/if a 'proper' Dr does a ward-round; Catching other infections whilst bed-ridden in hospital is more or less guaranteed, and finally, next of kin are shown The Chapel of Rest...

I can categorically state, from personal experience, that any relative of mine that has ended up in hospital during old age(?) for whatever, (say 68years+) have died in hospital. Not one, has ever returned to their home, and I very much doubt that I am alone with this.   

Indeed, theres a growing school of thought that feels a non-elective admission in a person over 70 with more than one comorbidity is effectively a preterminal event. 

What percentage of men aged 75 admitted with a community acquired pneumonia are;

a) alive at 3 months;

b) alive at 12 months;

c) living independently at 24 months?

This, together with the eye-popping cost, is one reason there is such pressure to keep people out of hospital. People die in them, or shortly afterwards. Yet still they come. 

 

[Guest 'eavensabove]

1 hour ago, Last Cunt Standing said:

Indeed, theres a growing school of thought that feels a non-elective admission in a person over 70 with more than one comorbidity is effectively a preterminal event. 

What percentage of men aged 75 admitted with a community acquired pneumonia are;

a) alive at 3 months;

b) alive at 12 months;

c) living independently at 24 months?

This, together with the eye-popping cost, is one reason there is such pressure to keep people out of hospital. People die in them, or shortly afterwards. Yet still they come. 

 

There's little choice for them to do much else, and at the other end of the scale, kids too are shoved from facility to facility.  "It's not our problem, they need to go to XYZ"  Decent Social Care, is paratactically null & void for most persons of any age, and the hospitals themselves cannot be blamed for that.  I know of folks who have been dismissed from hospital (having been hospitalised for 6+ weeks or more) Homeless, and without any intervention from Borough Councils. Being deemed as being well enough to leave hospital, means jack-shite in reality and after-care is a stab in the dark unless one's got an endless pot of gold.

Now, I aint ancient by any means, and I found myself being discharged from hospital following an 8 week stay and fighting for life.  Deemed too ill to travel,  not even to my own house (just 50 miles away) or my then partners' home or my daughter's,  I spent a whole year recovering in Hotels on the South coast. £500 - £750 pw x 52 work it out for yourself.  The alternative would have been a park bench.  Had my cash run out, then what?  I'm relatively well now and back on track, but shit man, there's thousands out there that have jack-shite and still quite seriously ill.