Shamina Begum

[Guest Crab]

14 minutes ago, Cuntybaws said:

I want to play a game!

Any game with Crab will result in shit on the fingers and probably round the mouth too. Just one of those everyday hazards of living for the next two years in a Syrian detention camp with no prospect of a resolution of the legal arguments. Ha ha ha. 

[Wolfie]

5 hours ago, Crab said:

I am 16 and 3/4 stupid. 

I can't be sure about the first part, though I can confirm the second is correct.

[Guest Crab]

9 minutes ago, Wolfie said:

I can't be sure about the first part, though I can confirm the second is correct.

Bullseye! 

[The Beast]

5 hours ago, Decimus said:

The man is a complete and utter fucking cunt, and the only thing that can be said in his defence is that he clearly doesn't give a fuck about what anyone thinks about him. Just when you think it's impossible to despise him anymore, the contemptuous piece of shit up's the ante.

I genuinely want him dead. Dead, dead, fucking dead. 

 

He's doing a fine job of delivering a no deal Brexit. If you want him dead after, I will courteously give way.

[camberwell gypsy]

3 hours ago, Wolfie said:

I can't be sure about the first part, though I can confirm the second is correct.

What, he's 3/4 stupid? 

[King Billy]

2 minutes ago, camberwell gypsy said:

What, he's 3/4 stupid? 

Do you not mean 75%  Were still metric until March 29th and then we’re freeeeeeee

[Guest judgetwi]

On 20/02/2019 at 19:03, Crab said:

Anybody who doesn't cooperate with UK policy on counter terrorism should have all aid stopped. The Bangladeshi amount of £149m should be stopped immediately. 

How is the foreign aid budget spent?

PAKISTAN: £463M

SYRIA: £352M

ETHIOPIA: £334M

NIGERIA: £230M

AFGAHNISTAN: £235M

TANZANIA: £186M

JORDAN: £175M

SOUTH SUDAN: £161M

SIERRA LEONE: £154M

SOMALIA: £152M

BANGLADESH: £149M

KENYA: £134M

CONGO: £130M

YEMEN: £127M

LEBANON: £124M

IRAQ: £119M

UGANDA: £111M

BURMA: £107M

NEPAL: £103M

MALAWI: £103M

This reminds me of that scene in “Falling Down” when Michael Douglas says “you’re Korean? Do you know how much money my country has given your country?”

The Slope says, “how much?”

Douglas says, “ I don’t know, but it’s gotta be a lot.”

It’s only when you see it laid out in front of you that you realise what a fucking con it is. Politicians paying bribes , with taxpayers money, to foreign politicians so their rich pals can make a shitload of money.

But, like Michael Douglas’s character, we hate the Korean shopkeeper instead of hating the cunts who are really fucking us up the arse.

Muggy cunts

Edited February 22, 2019 by judgetwi
I’m a cunt

[Eric Cuntman]

43 minutes ago, judgetwi said:

This reminds me of that scene in “Falling Down” when Michael Douglas says “you’re Korean? Do you know how much money my country has given your country?”

The Slope says, “how much?”

Douglas says, “ I don’t know, but it’s gotta be a lot.”

It’s only when you see it laid out in front of you that you realise what a fucking con it is. Politicians paying bribes , with taxpayers money, to foreign politicians so their rich pals can make a shitload of money.

But, like Michael Douglas’s character, we hate the Korean shopkeeper instead of hating the cunts who are really fucking us up the arse.

Muggy cunts

You're not a cunt. You're a grumpy, hateful curmudgeon, but you speak more truth than any other cunt on here.

only one SE7..

[Last Cunt Standing]

11 hours ago, 'eavensabove said:

You took the words straight out of his own party-members mouths.

'The Last Cunt Standing' has competition. 

I hope you don’t mean me. 

[cuntspotter]

15 hours ago, Crab said:

This is the country of hollowed out justice (ref Stephen Chafer case) and double standards so expect the Oxbridge privately educated white middle class hypocrites to exert all means to have her brought back in order to burnish their false world of false values. Notice how the BBC chief advocate general of this shit is already trying to show the war criminal in the best possible light with a second pleading bleeding heart interview in the camp. If you record live tv on a recorder or hard drive and watch it later do you still need a TV Licence - I desperately need to fucking cut my £150 wedge to those cunts asap. 

It isn’t about any of those things. If she was white, she’d be back. This is just another example of knee jerk endemic racism. Her case is unusual and has raised hackles... as it should. By international law , she is ours, exteadite her, if she has broken the law, try her. She was radicalised in this country, her family seem to be complicit. We need to fix it not look like the same pile of  blasé, cruel shitsacks that IS portray themselves to be. 

[Penny Farthing]

I see that Shamima say's that she is willing to change .. Yes that the spirit, just throw off that pervy nuns outfit have a bath and and then pop down to Primark or New Look.

[Jiggerycock]

2 hours ago, cuntspotter said:

It isn’t about any of those things. If she was white, she’d be back. This is just another example of knee jerk endemic racism. Her case is unusual and has raised hackles... as it should. By international law , she is ours, exteadite her, if she has broken the law, try her. She was radicalised in this country, her family seem to be complicit. We need to fix it not look like the same pile of  blasé, cruel shitsacks that IS portray themselves to be. 

I’ve been worried about the moral compass of the chattering classes for a while now.

These are people who will destroy individuals who commit minor speech-based transgressions — for example by ‘misgendering’ a trans person — and yet who refuse to pass firm moral judgement against genuine evil, like the massacre at Charlie Hebdo or the sight of British-born Muslims trekking thousands of miles to join a neo-fascistic religious outfit.

But even I have been taken aback by the sympathy for Begum. It points to a complete unanchoring of sections of the opinion-forming set from any sense of morality.

Acknowledging you would like to see her tried in the UK (but still raising an eyebrow at your employing the phrase 'if she has broken the law), the hand-wringers seem more exercised by the alleged plight of a female Isis supporter than they ever were by the genuine, historically horrific plight of the uncountable females (Yazidi, Kurdish, Iraqi and Syrian) who were mistreated, enslaved or killed by Isis.

[Penny Farthing]

2 hours ago, cuntspotter said:

It isn’t about any of those things. If she was white, she’d be back. This is just another example of knee jerk endemic racism. Her case is unusual and has raised hackles... as it should. By international law , she is ours, exteadite her, if she has broken the law, try her. She was radicalised in this country, her family seem to be complicit. We need to fix it not look like the same pile of  blasé, cruel shitsacks that IS portray themselves to be. 

I don't necessarily think that she would be back if she was white but I do think that she should be bought back and made to explain herself and for her decisions to be challenged and her to be tried should for any criminal acts. We do actually need to get at least some of the leading ISIS fuckwits into some form of court of justice so that they can be tried challenged for their criminal acts. A past problem over the last 40 years is that we have been afraid to visibly challenge this Islamic militancy (indeed also that of Christian and Jewish Militants) and make these fuckwits try to explain and show themselves up for the deluded and dangerous fools that they are.

[Ape™️]

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the whole Begum affair, one thing is certain: that’s one uuuuuugly fuckin’ bitch right there.

[Penny Farthing]

11 minutes ago, Jiggerycock said:

the genuine, historically horrific plight of the uncountable females (Yazidi, Kurdish, Iraqi and Syrian) who were mistreated, enslaved or killed by Isis.

This is a prime reason to bring her home and to also visibly challenge her on this and to make sure that she and other know just how foul ISIS is.

[Jiggerycock]

Just now, The Bishop said:

This is a prime reason to bring her home and to also challenge her on this and to make sure that she and other knows just how foul ISIS is.

Maybe.

My point was more to do with the relative sympathy show to these groups to date, by hand-wringers, when compared with that given to Ms. Begum in the last 24 hours (after her tone changed noticeably in her latest PR stunt - I'm sorry, I mean BBC interview - yesterday)

[Guest Crab]

15 hours ago, 'eavensabove said:

Are you going Independent or green?  

I am going Assad and Maduro. 

[Guest Crab]

9 hours ago, judgetwi said:

This reminds me of that scene in “Falling Down” when Michael Douglas says “you’re Korean? Do you know how much money my country has given your country?”

The Slope says, “how much?”

Douglas says, “ I don’t know, but it’s gotta be a lot.”

It’s only when you see it laid out in front of you that you realise what a fucking con it is. Politicians paying bribes , with taxpayers money, to foreign politicians so their rich pals can make a shitload of money.

But, like Michael Douglas’s character, we hate the Korean shopkeeper instead of hating the cunts who are really fucking us up the arse.

Muggy cunts

That might have been clever twenty years ago but not in today's world. 

[King Billy]

1 minute ago, Crab said:

I am going Assad and Maduro. 

I am going to boil my head

[Guest Crab]

2 hours ago, cuntspotter said:

It isn’t about any of those things. If she was white, she’d be back. This is just another example of knee jerk endemic racism. Her case is unusual and has raised hackles... as it should. By international law , she is ours, exteadite her, if she has broken the law, try her. She was radicalised in this country, her family seem to be complicit. We need to fix it not look like the same pile of  blasé, cruel shitsacks that IS portray themselves to be. 

The case is watertight. She can legally be excluded and stripped if she is eligible to apply for citizenship elsewhere. Bangladeshi law operates the principle for its diaspora (like Israel and Ireland) which is probably due to its history since partition. That means she is eligible under Bangladeshi to apply for their citizenship by descent. So if she needs any help filling in the form the lazy cunt I'll send her a Morrisons back to school kit. PUT THE CUNT BACK WHERE SHE BELONGS IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY. 

[Guest Crab]

4 minutes ago, King Billy said:

I am going to boil my head

All I know is I'm free of this glorious opposition Labour Party that hasn't got the fucking iota to challenge the Tories on their record. Look like a govt in waiting. They are fucking finished. If it was a football team even a new manager would only go in if he could start changing the players. Mate all he had to do was keep his mouth shut like he has done on most of the Brexit issues. He fucking hates Europe and loves fucking muslim traitorius terrorists. Cunts. A good of old fashioned patriotism and respect isn't against socialist principles. This Labour Party isn't fit for purpose and wadting my time and support. 

[Guest Crab]

30 minutes ago, Jiggerycock said:

Maybe.

My point was more to do with the relative sympathy show to these groups to date, by hand-wringers, when compared with that given to Ms. Begum in the last 24 hours (after her tone changed noticeably in her latest PR stunt - I'm sorry, I mean BBC interview - yesterday)

The self fellating exercise of showing the world we are "better" than them is codswallop code for sweep it under the carpet. Especially when the carpet is no way near the white rich privileged middle class in this country benefiting from the lowest personal taxation in twenty years. Let Dulwich College take in her son as a boarder when he gets old enough. Let Chalfont St Giles out her up in a two bedroomed flat. Let Oxbridge sponser him a the Dragon School. 

Fuck the two faced hypocrisy and false values. 

[Guest DrCunt]

44 minutes ago, Iam Ape said:

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the whole Begum affair, one thing is certain: that’s one uuuuuugly fuckin’ bitch right there.

I can imagine her Dutch husband intentionally running into the line of fire during each battle in the hope that the 72 virgins waiting in the afterlife are somewhat better than the fuck ugly one he was given here.

Thank fuck for burkas.

[Penny Farthing]

30 minutes ago, Crab said:

The case is watertight. She can legally be excluded and stripped if she is eligible to apply for citizenship elsewhere. Bangladeshi law operates the principle for its diaspora (like Israel and Ireland) which is probably due to its history since partition. That means she is eligible under Bangladeshi to apply for their citizenship by descent. So if she needs any help filling in the form the lazy cunt I'll send her a Morrisons back to school kit. PUT THE CUNT BACK WHERE SHE BELONGS IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY. 

I like your style and the cut of your jib on this. Using this principle both @Decimus and @Last Cunt Standing can have their citizenship revoked and fucked off to Ireland pronto.

[cuntspotter]

1 hour ago, Jiggerycock said:

I’ve been worried about the moral compass of the chattering classes for a while now.

These are people who will destroy individuals who commit minor speech-based transgressions — for example by ‘misgendering’ a trans person — and yet who refuse to pass firm moral judgement against genuine evil, like the massacre at Charlie Hebdo or the sight of British-born Muslims trekking thousands of miles to join a neo-fascistic religious outfit.

But even I have been taken aback by the sympathy for Begum. It points to a complete unanchoring of sections of the opinion-forming set from any sense of morality.

Acknowledging you would like to see her tried in the UK (but still raising an eyebrow at your employing the phrase 'if she has broken the law), the hand-wringers seem more exercised by the alleged plight of a female Isis supporter than they ever were by the genuine, historically horrific plight of the uncountable females (Yazidi, Kurdish, Iraqi and Syrian) who were mistreated, enslaved or killed by Isis.

Well, it is hard to express oneself fully on a sight like this, but. I’ll have a go. 

1. I am not apologising for her or seeking to water down appropriate legal redress.

2. I use the word “If” because there is a difference in being a murderer and witnessing murder. Let’s hear the case against her...I don’t know exactly what it entails...neither does anyone here.

3. You say ...”sympathy for Begum......points to a complete unanchoring of sections of the opinion-forming set from any sense of morality”. I suggest that the contrary is the case. For all the reasons I have previously suggested. I am not a middle class chatterer but I am a citizen of this country who wants to see the law upheld for everybody. My morality wants to see justice...yours wants to see revenge.

4. This is about rock solid justice ...not viscerally motivated revenge on a darkie Muslim girl (15, sex trafficked from a conservative radicalised Moslem family to be a comfort woman to is insurgents ) who, a swathe of society are desperate to claim belongs in Bangladesh.

5. The legal case is not watertight. I think the home Sec has been badly advised. ... and so do people who are paid to know about such things. I think he is pandering to the daily mail readership again. 

Aaaaaaand lastly.... She was, at fifteen, dull, impressionable, low hanging fruit, easily groomed and seduced away from a Society that she had been functionally kept apart from . All this anger now aimed at her, which I understand and is not entirely misplaced, is amplified  by the fact that she is of Asian origin. If it were a white girl from the end of the street, I guarantee it would be viewed with less intensity.

She is part of the collateral damage of the world that our ludicrous home and foreign policies over the last fifty years have made. What we need are proper strategies for dealing with people like her because I don’t think she is going to be the last we see. Yes, and of course she was a kid and really, still is... watching prisoners being brought back to be tortured, raped, incinerated, beheaded, seeing deserters or people wanting to leave being disposed of similarly. Having two infants die of neglect and deprivation.

But .....if people can’t get their heads around this for themselves then I’m not going to persuade the otherwise. It’s a good job that the law is out of the hands of the general public otherwise barbarism would prevail. We are better than IS because we have the capacity to think beyond mindless cruelty ...if only the daily mail readers could understand it.